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fandomsecrets2008-01-09 01:41 am
shahni.livejournal.com) wrote in fandomsecrets2008-01-09 01:41 am
[ SECRET POST #368 ]
⌈ Secret Post #368 ⌋
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And yeah, I don't know if they had any thoughtful and reasonable discussion of it, but all I saw was "don't download fansubs! No, seriously, don't do it! It's wrong and bad and wrong!" and while I can, logically, completely understand why they're saying that... I don't know, it just struck me as not a very good way of going about it. Although clearly it worked on at least one person.
(Besides, they had this live-action clip thing with a girl dressed up as/ostensibly acting like Haruhi telling people not to download fansubs. Which, you know, is sort of out of character -- I mean, this is the girl who cheerfully threatens and blackmails to get her way; I doubt fansubs would cause her great moral outrage. But that's neither here nor there, really.)
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I mean, yeah, saying its wrong makes sense, but saying WHY it would benifit YOU as an anime fan, and why you should support the companies that make the series you love! I mean, especially dealing with teens, who don't really have any sense of money (well, most it seems, I know I was one of them) or how serious these things can be. I mean, i dont even get the full grasp of it I'm sure. I don't deny it- I watch, and download fansubs... but I also make sure to also buy series that I enjoy!
W...w.....what? Really.... REALLY? Oh god that's pathetic. I should go watch that now... and i really should watch Haruhi sometime XD
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Yeah, really. It was pretty special. I don't have the link or anything, though -- I think it was on their official site somewhere.
(You know, I think this may be the most reasonable discussion about fansubs I've ever had.)
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But like you said, it's a vicious cycle. How many anime fans are really gonna say "Oh yeah, I'll spend $35 on a DVD now so that in 5-10 years they're only $15." I really do feel for those trying to keep this going as a business.
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Yeah, exactly. It seems to really be a tricky place to be in.
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ADV released a thin pack boxset the following year at around 60 something dollars (best buy price).
Anime drops real fast, especially if you buy from stores that buy it in bulk like BestBuy. Hell, at Walmart you can get anime for UNDER 20 dollars.
Freak Naruto boxsets are 25 and I don't even like that retarded show.
I don't know why people are bitching and moaning about " how expensive " anime is. Trying be an anime fan five, six, seven years ago when the shit was still on VHS. Yeah, then bitching about anime could be justifiable then.
Oh man, I'm one grouchy old fan, am I?
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The Naruto box sets were on SALE for $20, once, but usually they're $40-$60, and that was only the first season, which is 13 episodes.
Obviously the companies ARE responding, and have the wiggle room that if something gets popular they can drop the price, as best they can, and some serise are dropping, but it is still a rather expensive habit.
Although yeah, VHS ones were WAY worse (And oy the shelf space)
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The first two boxsets have been out since 06, IIRC, and I significantly surprised not to find 1, 2, 3, but all 4 for under 30 dollars.
I guess I don't understand the "expensive" claim that everyone throws at anime because I purchase a lot of Japanese R2 dvds... but I find the industry very cheap. If you go to an FYE, yeah, you're gonna blow full price on the DVDs but mass inventory stores like BestBuy, and you're sure to find a deal. Even online.
Anime is not expensive as it used to be. Unless you don't have a job or still a teenager with your parents.
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To you, $20 may not be a lot, to me it is. I have rent and more to pay. So that is expensive to me, especially when most everything else I go to buy is around $10. (I am not someone to buy something right when it comes out, but that applies across the board)
I wasjust at Best Buy earlier this week, and all four box sets we're at least $30, of Naruto. I've been wanting to buy them so tend to keep an eye out for them on sale. Unless Best Buys are more expensive here...In fact a quick search on bestbuy.com (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7828372&st=Naruto&lp=1&type=product&cp=2&id=1541241) shows the first, and cheapest, at $45.
And although Parakiss might be more expensive due to this, it's not the only one out there, just my first example.
Yes it's cheaper then it use to be. That doesn't make it cheap, especially if you're collecting several series. I don't think the right answer is to download stuff, and don't practice that, but I do understand the cry.
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I don't like the defense that BECAUSE ANIME IS EXPENSIVE I REFUSE TO BUY THE PRODUCT. Because, its not expensive. If anime was expensive then the industry probably would not have stayed afloat.
All I am saying is that fansubs is not the reason why anime is expensive. If it was, prices would have been raised to compensate for loss revenue but it hasn't within the past 7 years that the industry made the switch to DVD and its not anytime soon.
I'm just glad anime isn't in the Specal Interest section anymore and there's rows dedicated to the stuff now. But since I've moved on from anime and focusing on music and movies more so than ever -- I'm back in the same boat.
Either way, it's not expensive and it's hard these days to find movies under 15 dollars that are NOT new movies.
I had to wait a year and a half to buy Letters from Iwo Jima, almost two to buy Memoirs of a Geisha at reasonable prices (below 20).
So yeah. As long as I'm not paying 40 bucks for a 5 episode disc of Samurai Champloo, I'm good.
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Something that has grown in popularity, and is cheaper to make (And DVD's are markedly cheaper to make then DVDs) should be getting cheaper. the fact that anime doesn't reflect that as strongly as it should is a pretty big sign. And the fact that it's a big deal when they make cheaper versions (like when they had the huge push for the cheaper Fruist Baskets, and more then a few companies advertise their cheaper releases....) Obviously if they are making an effort to make, and advertise more affordable versions, they realize there's an issue about it. Just because YOU have the money for it, doesn't make it moot.
Yes it's hard to find new DVD under $15. You missed the point. It's hard to find OLD anime under $15, and not hard to pick up, say Stargate, for $6. I'm comparing old to old.