ext_82219 ([identity profile] shahni.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-01-09 01:41 am

[ SECRET POST #368 ]


⌈ Secret Post #368 ⌋

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[identity profile] tealizard.livejournal.com 2008-01-09 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
Let's see... 9 years, although if you REALLY want to count Hello Kitty, Sailor Moon, Speed Racer and SPK, 14 years. Yeah. So yes, I do remember the VHS days.

Yes, you DO get more for your buck BUT, it is still more expensive than say, a full length movie. In a full length movie, you get options of english.french.spanish most often. You get subtitles as well. You get several special features such as bloopers, making ofs, interveiws, that you don't get with anime. anime you usually get trailers and that's it. Feature length movies cost from 2.99 in the bin at walmart, to 40 dollars, but usually, they peak around 20 - 25 bucks. Anime will run you anywhere from 30 - 50 dollars, more often 50 especially in Eastern Canada. these prices are nonsense, seriously. Considering the ACTUAL COST that the American companies put in (far less than that of a feature length), 25 bucks for a DVD of 5 episodes is more than enough.

Just because it's 'cheaper' now than it was in 1990 means nothing, seriously. Alot of stuff gets more 'worth it' over time just because of the technology going into it. Movies back then were 25 dollars too. They didn't have anything but the movie. Anime has always been overpriced.

So believe it or not, when you're downloading those fansubs and burning them off and adding it to your collection, rather than buying the dvd's, you're just contributing to the high cost of anime DVD's, because they can't afford to lower them, and killing the industry, just as much as downloading music and movies does.

[identity profile] lady-mercury.livejournal.com 2008-01-09 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
The average Japanese dvd costs 35 dollars. A Japanese movie can go from 35 dollars all the way up 250 dollars. That is including an American movie as well which is marketed in Japan.

When anime is brought over to the states, it is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper that the R2 release. You must also realize that these dvds are just direct copies from the R2s with an English track thrown on. I don't know what type of DVDs you've been buying that all you have is just a trailer (unless its a Viz release -- cause they're cheap bastards, but anyway) you get a hell of a lot more than that. FUNImation and ADV releases ALWAYS come packed with interviews, bloopers, commentary, etc.

You do get your bang for your buck. I don't see how 5 episodes for 20 dollars is EXPENSIVE. Seriously, you're not only PAYING for the dvd -- you're paying for the licensing rights. Its an IMPORTED product, you're paying for that. Movies are domestically made, thus there isn't a HIGH price for them.

Also, what dvds are you finding for 2.99? Movies that are made five, six, seven years ago. New movies are 15, 16, 17, all the way up to 30 dollars. PoTC 3 cost me 27 dollars. The regular edition was 21.

Seriously, the market is severely inexpensive compared to the Japanese market and is pretty much on par with the American movie market.

You must realize that these 50 dollar dvds maybe a special edition that comes with a box or something. There is always the cheaper alternative.

I don't understand your movie remark. Anime VHS had one or the other and only two episodes, THAT was expensive. At least movies, at the end of the VHS, had trailers or something that kept you watching.

You must also take into consideration of the RENTAL industry that keeps many DVDs at considerable rates. Anime does not have a large rental community. Its purely retail.

Please, fansubs isn't doing anymore damage to the anime community rather than expanding it. Why the hell is anime getting licensed faster? FANSUBS.

Why the hell is all these titles popular. Why is there a Shounen Jump? Shoujo Jump? Why is Death Note here a YEAR after its Japanese premiere ( and may I say almost exactly to the DATE of premiere) because of FANSUBS.

FANSUBS help this industry.

:)

[identity profile] tealizard.livejournal.com 2008-01-09 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
Look- I understand that fansubs help by opening more doors, showing ppl that there are good shows out there. I watch fansubs.

What doesn't help is when people burn them to disc and put them away, deciding that since they have it burned they don't need to buy it, which is what the majority of fans are doing today. THAT is the problem I have with it.

And by the way I'm referring to the shitty single dvds, not the box sets, Box sets are worth it sometimes, but the single dvds seem to come with jack,

[identity profile] lady-mercury.livejournal.com 2008-01-09 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
They're everywhere. American industry, Japanese, European. Cheap people are everywhere. Its a practice going on for years and its not going to stop. It is not impacting the industry as everyone has CLAIMED it has.

That is what I was referring too. I've never bot a boxset in my life.