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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-03 06:39 pm

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What fandom is this?

(Anonymous) 2015-04-03 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
And why should they have their hair covered?

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-03 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
>Islam
>Even once

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-03 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Because it's historically accurate?

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-03 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Does the show claim to be historically accurate?

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-03 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Outlander, a series set in 17th century Scotland, and because it's set in 17th century Scotland

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-03 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh, that's not Outlander.

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fandomrandom: (Shocking Tales of Redundancy)

Re: What fandom is this?

[personal profile] fandomrandom 2015-04-03 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's the Musketeers, so OP is complaining about historical inaccuracy.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-03 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
That's Aramis from The Musketeers. Can't remember the woman's name, but she only appeared in one episode.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-03 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
They're assaching about POC rep in 16th fucking century Scotland?

(Anonymous) 2015-04-03 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL, again, this is not about Outlander!

(Anonymous) 2015-04-04 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
No, but it's so much funnier if you pretend it is.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-03 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
According to Wikipedia, while many women in the time period of the Musketeers (1620s) covered their hair with a lace cap, there was a style at the time for unmarried or very fashionable married women to have it uncovered or wear it bare and with a hat:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1600%E2%80%9350_in_Western_European_fashion#Hairstyles_and_headdresses

I haven't seen too far into this series of the Musketeers, so I'm not sure if that excuses the incident you're talking about. That said, even if it doesn't, the Musketeers, from the original stories through the adaptations, have never been exactly historically accurate. Alexandre Dumas. He's cool that way.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-03 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm gonna guess that OP is just being an armchair historian. not that media isn't easy to point out historical inaccuracies, but I'd be wary to suggest a certain fashion, etc was impossible unless I'd done my research first.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-03 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Lack of POC representation? Isn't one of the main guys black?

(Anonymous) 2015-04-03 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Athos is the only one who looks white. Aramis is latino, Porthos is black and d'Artagnan is Italian iirc but he doesn't look white.

The first time I watched the show, I didn't even notice Porthos was black, I just thought he was tanned or something, but I was surprised because I thought d'Artagnan was Indian. Weird, right?

(And ib4 someone feels the need to say that Italian is white, I know, I'm European. He just didn't look like he was, that's all. And that's not a criticism, I like that the show is diverse. And d'Artagnan should look tanned since he's Gascon anyway.)

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-03 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Because The Musketeers is all about historical accuracy.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-03 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Just like Merlin and Robin Hood.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-03 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
If this is a troll, I commend you on your success.

I'm lolling, either way.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-04 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, I think it's legit. I'm the sort of person who'd handwave away a multi-ethnic ensemble in South Pacific (like the 2008 one did), even though the SeaBees were not an integrated unit, and the story contains elements that are about interracial relationships... but I'd get really annoyed if the military uniforms were inaccurate.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-04 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
Image: Aramis and a woman with her red hair uncovered like a brazen ahistorical hussy

Text: While everyone in the fandom is arguing over lack of POC representation

it is really bothering me that none of the women ever have their hair covered.

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LOL. That description is a thing of beauty, transcript anon.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-04 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
Lack of POC representation in a show where half the title characters are POC. Okay then.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-04 11:29 am (UTC)(link)
Of all the women on the show, you'd use her as your example? The woman who was married to and carried the child of the disfigured, we assume Downs, man who she saw beaten to death after they dared to venture into town for the first time in his entire life?

I'm all for accuracy, but take into consideration the characters, too. None of the prominent women in the show are people who care about convention. Constance is a married woman having an affair and learning to fight with both sword and gun. Milady is a murderer and con artist. Queen Anne's son is the result of a one nighter with Aramis. At that point, I think historically accurate modesty is almost disingenuous to the characters.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-04 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG I'm sorry OP, but, first of all, your image of the epoque this show supposedly takes place in appears to be just as badly informed as that of the show runners/writers. As a different anon already pointed out, by the 1630's it was a-ok for women in France to leave their hair uncovered.

And secondly, this is the fucking BBC Musketeers. I cry tears of blood for their poor historical advisor every episode (if he's even still alive after all that shit he signed his name too). I mean, have you LOOKED at the costumes? A steampunk renaissaince fair is more historically accurate than this show. In addition to that the only character who remotely portrays a mindset in keeping with the time by this point is the king! Everyone else is laughably off. Just... just the episode in which everyone treats Ninon as special, as if reading salons led by women weren't the most common thing by then. Gah! What a fucking dumb plot! Or take the visiting princess from the most recent series. She arrives in a single carriage, no court, no followers, not a single lady accompanying her. And no one mentions how wrong that is and everyone's so surprised when she turns out to be a fake.

So you really should try to get over griping about the hair IMO. Because this show is not the place to get upset about (perceived) historical inaccuracies.

I love this show to bits, but it's as dumb as a modern-day Baywatch.