[ SECRET POST #3014 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3014 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Of all the Gaiman books I've read, this was the one I liked the best. American Gods was pretty good but hadn't a patch on this. Prachett provided the sense of humanity which I find vital.

Of all Pratchett books? Good Omens wouldn't even in the top five. Strata would take top place for me. It's severely underrated.

[(Anonymous)]

"Sense of humanity," that's the thing. I've only read a couple Gaiman books and I cannot get into him at all, and I think that's a good chunk of why. The worlds he creates don't act like worlds populated by actual people.

[(Anonymous)]

Pratchett always had a sense of affection that shone through, even for his most villainous characters. It was wonderful and actually kind of sneaky how he managed it.

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nayrt

Yeah, I know what you mean. They're interesting, but they feel more like archtypes than real people. Pratchett's characters on the other hand, are often quite comic and prone to poking fun at stereotypes, but they're very human. It's clear he's thought a great deal about what makes people tick, what motivates them, all their petty human feelings, etc. I don't get that sense from Gaiman.

[(Anonymous)]

This is exactly how I feel about Gaiman too that I've had trouble articulating properly. I think Gaiman has some interesting plots but his characters always read to me as simply words on a page and nothing more. For me with Gaiman there's no "voice" there at all for the characters and I can't get into a story where I don't have any feeling at all for the characters.

[tree_and_leaf]

Huh. I think you've just put your finger on something I've been feeling but not articulated to myself.

The only Gaiman (that's purely Gaiman) I've really got on with is "American Gods" - where of course most of the characters AREN'T actual people, so it works.

[(Anonymous)]

yeah, this. I don't even think that Pratchett is a super great character writer- he's bound to get repetitive- a lot of them operate on the same POV explorative tone- but he /likes/ people, he likes humanity.

[(Anonymous)]

I really love Gaiman's comics and the sense of humanity is very much there (read his Hellblazer one-shot for a quick glance if you don't want to slog through all of Sandman!) In his novels, not so much, and I really don't know why.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree entirely with this comment, and I've enjoyed several of Gaiman's books.

In my opinion, Gaiman is very good at premises, but not particularly good at developing them. It's one reason why I think his short stories work better than his novels (less development required, and a good premise will take you further), and also why I think adaptations of his works tend to be quite good (other people can take his good premise and run with it).