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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-09 06:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #3018 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3018 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Gunnerkrigg Court]


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[One Punch Man]


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(Victorian Farm)


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[Jojo's Bizarre Adventure]


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[Totally Spies]


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[The Middle]


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[The Blacklist]


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[Biolabs (Ragnarok Online)]


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[Gravity Falls, Adventure Time, My Little Pony, Steven Universe]


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[One Piece]


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[Vikings]


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[American Horror Story: Freakshow]


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[Kids in the Hall]


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Re: What's your least favorite kind of wank?

(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
I agree in some degree. I get why people want to see more non-White people (that are not stereotypes) in American media, especially in when set in areas that are very multi-cultural.

I think what I've seen of it on Tumblr though is quite hypocritical. Take Frozen, based on a Danish fairytale, which parts of Tumblr thought should have plenty of non-white minorities and the one minority they did have (Or sort of had with maybe Sami Kristoff) did not count at all as it was a white minority.

The rumoured (or is it confirmed?) Mulan live-action movie on the other hand, that should just have Chinese actors and not any other Asians as it is based on a Chinese story.

Re: What's your least favorite kind of wank?

(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
"The rumoured (or is it confirmed?) Mulan live-action movie on the other hand, that should just have Chinese actors and not any other Asians as it is based on a Chinese story."

See, that's another issue as to why I don't get why people want white writers to tell POC stories.

If you're going to have white people tell this story, why are you getting upset that they want to use a Korean actress (for example) instead of a Chinese one?

Korea and China are literally right next to each other. That's like getting upset at Hollywood for casting a German person in a French person's role. Hollywood doesn't DO those kind of subtleties.

And it's not like China hasn't produced its own version of Mulan.

Re: What's your least favorite kind of wank?

(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, wanting only Chinese actors is counterproductive. They're not going to be Chinese, they're going to be Americans (or Canadians or citizens of some other mostly English-speaking country) of Chinese descent. Hollywood has never been that picky about their white actors matching the heritage of the character they play, so closing all roles to other Asian actors would be another way to make it harder for POC than it is for white people to get roles. And that's the opposite of what these MUST BE CHINESE purists want.

Re: What's your least favorite kind of wank?

(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
If it was an ambiguous tale that roughly takes place on the continent, yeah, but Mulan is a Chinese legend and story. The closer they can cast, the better.

Re: What's your least favorite kind of wank?

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-04-10 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Based on a Danish fairytale, set in the early modern period at a time when Denmark made at least a token show of competing with France, England, the Netherlands, and Spain for African and Indian trade. Just pointing out that the token black person in a couple of crowd scenes isn't historically outrageous for a royal court of the time period.

Re: What's your least favorite kind of wank?

(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Just pointing out that the token black person in a couple of crowd scenes isn't historically outrageous for a royal court of the time period.

There were some non-white background characters in the coronation ball scene, though. Which is why I never understood the wank.
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Re: What's your least favorite kind of wank?

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2015-04-10 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
Then you get the arguments that Elsa should be POC because she has magic.
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Re: What's your least favorite kind of wank?

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2015-04-10 11:50 am (UTC)(link)
The Frozen example you mention is one that bugs me - when people argue a setting where a white European majority does make sense and people still argue not only should there be more POCs, but major characters (like Elsa for example) should be POC only because she has magic and illogical racial inheritance doesn't apply when there's magic.

I support more diversity, but I still want it to make sense. Also, magic is not an excuse to stop making sense when it comes to the groundwork.