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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-12 03:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #3021 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-04-12 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh for God's sake.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-12 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Fair enough, IMO.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-12 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't watch this show, but I'm really turned on by that picture. Context anyone?

There is no satisfying people like you.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-12 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
A black woman shows up and she isn't a fat black woman. If she was a fat black woman, I bet someone will complain that she's not fat enough.

This is why I get sick of people who complain about representation or the lack of. They're never satisfied.

And before people start rating this as a troll, it's not. I'm mixed race and sick of representation complaints because nobody's happy. You want to be represented? Go to acting school and land a role.

Re: There is no satisfying people like you.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-12 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
+all
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-04-12 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
to be fair, Ursula in the Disney classic is fat...so I can understand this complaint. It's an issue of accuracy.

Re: There is no satisfying people like you.

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2015-04-12 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah... OP isn't making something up to complain about. OP is just expressing that while it is nice to see progress in one aspect it is also kind of disheartening to compare it to a lack of progress in another apect.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-12 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I thought the OP wasn't going for "She should be black AND fat for representation!" but rather "It's nice that she's black, but couldn't she also be fat the way Ursula is supposed to be?"

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-13 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Disney's Ursula IS fat though. And while Once Upon a Time used to be loosely fairytale based, they are essentially just Disney based now.

I mean Ursula looks really strange when standing right next to her is a Cruella who looks like the animated movie Cruella and a Maleficent who was specifically given a new wardrobe to look like the movie.

I don't really think it's odd for OP to think it's odd that Ursula looks drastically different then her animated counterpart. She really stands out in that way.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-12 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Image: screen cap from Once Upon a Time, of Ursula holding someone in her tentacles

Text: I think it’s great that they cast a black woman as Ursula. But I’ll always see it with a bitter aftertaste because I think: “Would it have killed them to cast a fat black woman?”
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-04-12 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope this doesn't come across as assholish, but...why would you cast a skinny Ursula? Part of her evil charm is her design in The Little Mermaid, if you ask me...

(I'm NOT saying evil because fat, I'm just specifically saying it's highly inaccurate to her original design)
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(Anonymous) 2015-04-12 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
This. Her design in the movie is amazing and makes such an impact, especially when she unfurls the tentacles.
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[personal profile] loracarol 2015-04-12 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
From what I have googled, this Ursula isn't even the "real" Ursula from TLM; that role was taken over by Regina, mimicking an ancient Sea Goddess (whom this Ursula was named after.)

I don't know if that makes it better or worse tbh. :/

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-13 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think you're coming across as assholish.

I'm a fat...ish woman, and rewatching TLM as an adult, Ursula made a big impact on me. It was kind of... empowering... seeing this fat lady be so confident and striking and unashamed and PRESENT with her asppearance. Villain or not, Ursula looks darn impressive. Seeing that definitely played into my process of ceasing to view the deviations-from-the-standard in my appearance as flaws, and beginning to see myself as an interesting character design.

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[personal profile] solticisekf 2015-04-12 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Disney's Ursula was awesome, I'd wish for them to make the actor look the same. If I'd watched this series, that is. I mean, Cruella looks almost exactly like she does in the cartoon.
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-12 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
The actress they picked probably counts as fat by Hollywood standards. Just going by that pic anyway.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-12 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
She looks more like Ursula's sister from the sequel.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-12 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah I don't think OP is complaining about nothing? Ursula IS fat. Its a pretty integral part of her character design. She was based off of Divine after all.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-12 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I want someone who is not into OUAT explain what’s going on in this paticular picture.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-13 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
The bitchen fabulous drag queen on the right is using her weirdly textured butt tentacles to strangle/entrap one of the show's approximately 8000 Interchangeable Pale White Ladies With Shortish Dark Hair.

Also for some reason everything is green.

I imagine one of the show's approximately 8000 Interchangeable White Dudes With Sandy Blondish Hair showed up to save the day. I'm hoping with a lip synch danceoff.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-13 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah non-fat Ursula is DNW.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-13 09:09 am (UTC)(link)
It would have been cool if they cast a drag queen, not expecting OUAT to do something like that though.

To all of you saying OP needs to shut up

(Anonymous) 2015-04-13 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
So, say if next season they cast Tiana and cast a white person. I'd like to see who's gonna shut up then.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-13 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
but thats a totally incomparable situation