[ SECRET POST #3021 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3021 ⌋

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Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 2 - repeat ].
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a cishet white guy (from a fairly privileged background on top of that, too). I know I can't speak for everyone in my demographic -- far form it -- but my response to finding a good book with strong women of color, or gay people, or transgender people, as protagonists is, usually, 'awesome.' I have enjoyed many books from perspectives like that (as well as other media -- I'm currently a big fan of Kamala Khan/Ms. Marvel, for instance).

I do have to admit that a book with strong women of color as protagonists where the main theme is 'look at how cishet white guys suck and are awful and horrible and hate these great women for doing the right thing because they're evil' would get a different response from me, but it's unlikely to be tears. More likely rolling my eyes and putting it back on the shelf, or maybe feeling a bit down that someone feels so much hate I can't do much of anything about.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. Some SJWs have odd ideas about what makes guys like us cry.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

SJWs have odd ideas about pretty much everything. Including odd ideas.

[(Anonymous)]

SJW are pretty much bullies. Though I agree with the idea everyone should be treated equal, they just come off as hypocrites. They say they wanna make anyone who is either white, hetero, or male cry white tears or deserves to be killed for being privileged cishet mayo scum (to quote a post I recently saw).

They'll throw around words like mayonnaise, white bread, boring het scum, or whatever other variation of 'white foods' and 'boring'. Yeah, it's offensive, but I agree it's more eye-roll worthy than something to cry about.

The current SJW are no different than high school bullies who will call you stupid names and try to harass you. Instead of picking a fight with other, more harmful, bullies they prefer to target those who have done nothing wrong or those don't know any better. I swear I've seen SJW harass more 14-16 year old girls over '*~problematic~*' fictional ships to the point of them contemplating suicide rather than targeting actual chauvinistic racist scumbags.

[(Anonymous)]

(anon who started this subthread)

One problem with this is that the meaning of SJW has become unclear as time has passed. It started out meaning people like you're describing, but these days there's a large contingent of people who will use it to mean anyone who doesn't think that the status quo is awesome and that anyone who claims to be burdened by it is a whining liar. (MRAs and Gamergaters use it this way, for instance.) And this has led to more moderate people *also* picking up the SJW label as a point of pride and defiance against those guys.

So these days, it's a phrase that's on the verge of losing all meaning. I usually think that, when it gets thrown into a conversation, it does more harm than good regardless of how the speaker is using it.

[(Anonymous)]

Funny you say that, because barely anyone identifies as an actual MRA and I'm pretty sure people use it just to say dudes I don't like at this point.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, believe me, their cult is alive and well. I run into them in the circles I move in. Contemptible little fuckers.

[(Anonymous)]

Which doesn't have anything to do with AYRT's comment. There may not be many actual MRAs, but that doesn't mean that the ones who do exist don't misuse the term SJW in the way AYRT described.

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AYRT

Drop by sites like A Voice for Men sometime (if you've got a strong constitution), or any of its related sites. There's a substantial population of men out there who call themselves MRAs or PUAs or MGTOWs or incels and so on, and they act every bit like you'd expect. And, of course, Gamergaters have a significant overlap. This isn't a 'both sides' situation where the wrongdoing is perfectly symmetrical.