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⌈ Secret Post #3026 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

"besides maybe hanging out privately with his bros."

I think that's might be what OP meant. They say they want to have a normal conversation about it with non-fandom friends. Is that not the equivalent of hanging out privately with bros?

Bros are friends right?

[(Anonymous)]

No.

[(Anonymous)]

Bros aren't friends?

[(Anonymous)]

Well, bros before hos. But no.

[(Anonymous)]

I wonder if there is a "normal conversation" when the topic's porn.

Anyway, I think it's about the type of friend. I have girl friends where we brag about how big our poops were, in those close, nothing's-sacred type friendships porn is definitely a possible topic. But then I have girl friends who we don't have that banter, doesn't mean we're not close, but it's not how our conversations work, so I wouldn't just bring up something like that.

So in short, I think it depends on the friend, but I'd wager this is true of guy friends, too. Though if I were to take an uneducated guess, I can see how "male youth culture" might be more encouraging to guys to talk about things like sex and porn with one another than it is for girls.

[(Anonymous)]

I have friends that I've talked about sexual preferences and experiences with that I haven't talked about porn with.

To support the idea that it's very much something that depends on the people in question.

my porn convos with rl friends tend to suck and are never normal

[fingalsanteater]

Once I went out to drinks with some female co-workers and they pulled up porn on their phones to show me some scene where this girl gets some hardcore eye-cum facial and I was freaking out because WE ARE WATCHING PORN WHILE NOT SOBER ON A CROWDED RESTUARANT PATIO AT MIDNIGHT and I was worried about getting kicked out or arrested for PI or idenciencu or something like that and they are all "you are such a prude, Fingal."

I'm like the least prudish person, but really. If you wanna watch porn or talk about it, I'm game, but not out in public, please.

My online chats about porn go much better.

Re: my porn convos with rl friends tend to suck and are never normal

[(Anonymous)]

Unacceptable to talk about/describe porn in an impolite manner in public. Yuck!

[(Anonymous)]

DA

You are entirely sensible and I don't understand why people are clutching their pearls about this. Gasp, how dare you say that this is socially acceptable? But OP wasn't saying it was -- just that guys liking girl-on-girl is more socially acceptable, which let's face it, it is. Nobody is suggesting that this become a topic for the dinner table (though depending on the family...).

[(Anonymous)]

"just that guys liking girl-on-girl is more socially acceptable, which let's face it, it is."

No, it isn't. It might be less shocking, but it's certainly not more "acceptable".

[(Anonymous)]

"Less" shocking is not "more" acceptable? So you mean people don't accept that admission with less shock... or isn't that exactly what you're saying?

Seriously, qualifiers change meanings. Saying one thing is more acceptable than another thing doesn't necessarily imply that it is, in fact, widely acceptable... because degrees. Otherwise we're just splitting hairs for no reason.

[(Anonymous)]

There are different kinds of shock. The average person might be aware that some guys watch lesbian porn, but I'd think that's a negative image, not an "acceptable" one. like some guys pick their noses, some guys don't wash their hands after wanking, some guys watch lesbian porn. That is in no way "acceptable".

Someone might be surprised if a woman said she liked gay porn, because it's not something that comes up often, but I seriously doubt that would illicit more social backlash than a guy who said he liked lesbian porn in the exact circumstances.

[(Anonymous)]

No offense but I find this REALLY hard to believe.

You know Black Swan right? Has a make out and sex scene between Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis -- TONS of guys were way into that and were in no way quiet about it. It was hugely mainstream.

[(Anonymous)]

What exactly are you arguing? That men react and pay money for titillating material?

Literally nothing to do with the topic at hand.

And for what it's worth, I do remember that movie coming out, and I don't remember loads of guys publicly talking about how sexy lesbians are. And if they did, I reckon they earned plenty of dirty looks.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I remember when Black Swan came out one of the major selling points (especially among male reviewers) was "it's got Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis making out, guys *winkwink*". You either live under a rock or are very naive.

[(Anonymous)]

And I remember when Brokeback Mountain came out. This was BEFORE I was in fandom at all, and I heard women (non-fandom women) saying this like "omg Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal make out, hot!"

[(Anonymous)]

It WAS hot but I also thought that both Ledger and Gyllenhaal looked like children, LOL, because they're both young-looking.

[(Anonymous)]

That was the scariest lesbian sex scene ever. Maybe it's because I'm not into lesbian sex (I'm a gay man so I'm all about dicks) but, in that movie, I knew their sex scene was nothing but trouble. But that movie was fucking brilliant.

SPOILER BELOW

When Mila goes down on Natalie only to come back up and be Natalie? Oh fuck the hell no!

SPOILER ABOVE

[(Anonymous)]

If you just throw porn out of the conversation and make it PG-13, you'd see the OP's point. Guys liking the thought of two hot girls making out? Definitely a thing, part of pop culture even, I'd be surprised you've never encountered references to it in mainstream media. Girls being into guy-on-guy? That is now becoming a thing but still way less common and more likely to elicit eyebrows and "ewwww" from idiots who decide that, now that dicks are involved, it's suddenly gay!

(The reason we need to throw porn out of the conversation is because porn itself is still controversial and "shameful" regardless of who's watching it... but even then, people generally assume it to be a thing men do.)

[(Anonymous)]

The argument isn't about whether it's a thing that's known about. The argument is about whether it's socially acceptable.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, and I'm arguing that if something is common enough that people casually joke about it and feature it in big budget movies, then it is definitely more accepted by society than something that, at present, hardly ever gets that treatment. Seriously, what definition of socially acceptable do we have to go with? It's sex, it's raunchy -- it's not topic for polite conversation any way you cut it. Doesn't mean people don't talk about it.

Hair. Splitting. You.