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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-18 02:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3027 ]


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blitzwing: ([magi] Jafar)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-19 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
I can say no because I know he loves me anyway.

Then say no. Or say yes. But whether it bothers you or not, if you wouldn't have cut your hair and would have preferred long hair, and his comment made you change it something you like less, then he did a bad thing, in my opinion.

Getting your partners to do things they don't like or make choices they don't like is not something you should feel okay doing.
Edited 2015-04-19 02:28 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
I feel okay doing it and I feel okay having it done to me because I am not someone who insists I am perfect exactly the way I am and that if you can't handle me exactly as I am then you shouldn't be dating me. If someone said that to me, I'd run like fuck because this is a huge red flag that they are completely unwilling to compromise.

If my partner had a habit that annoyed me it's not a dilemma between either 100% accepting him the way he is or walking out the door. There are choices between those two things, like talking about it like mature adults. It's not as black and white as you make it out to be.

Being forced or unduly pressured is one thing. Being asked about something with the knowledge that saying no is totally okay is another. Nobody, including OP, is saying that the armpit hair is a dealbreaker, only a turn-off.
blitzwing: ([magi] Jafar)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-19 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
if you can't handle me exactly as I am then you shouldn't be dating me.

Maybe in regards to behaviors and actions. With physical traits, I don't think it's a red-flag to say that a partner shouldn't have to change the way they look for a partner.

There are choices between those two things, like talking about it like mature adults. It's not as black and white as you make it out to be.

It's not that it's black and white, it's that you keep having to bring up behaviors and "annoying habits" because those are things that are a lot more impactful and omnipresent.

Physical traits and preferences are largely arbitrary. We're not talking about "Stop spraying food on me at the dinner table, could you keep your mouth closed?" we're talking about "Rid yourself of this natural trait that you and ever other person is born with."


Being forced or unduly pressured is one thing. Being asked about something with the knowledge that saying no is totally okay is another. Nobody, including OP, is saying that the armpit hair is a dealbreaker, only a turn-off.


Telling someone that you don't like someone is pressure, even if it's slight. Yes, they can say no, and since you're a mature person, you'll drop it there, but the pressure was still applied.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Shaving is not "changing the way you look," it's a minor hygiene alteration. It'd be more akin to asking your partner to brush their teeth more often because they're prone to bad breath otherwise - it may not be an issue at all outside of the relationship, but if it's a turnoff for your partner, it's something that's probably worth addressing.

You're being ridiculously hyperbolic about this entire thing. There's nothing bad or wrong about asking a partner to make minor changes to make the overall relationship happier. Mature adults are able to recognize that they aren't perfect and that sometimes it's worth compromising on something small for the sake of something else that's more important.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Body hair isn't unhygienic.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
Taking care of it is part of a hygiene routine, and on some people it can be a hygiene issue because it can trap BO if you sweat a lot. If I don't shave on a regular basis, my pits will sweat like crazy and stink no matter how much deodorant I use. Not even clinical strength deodorant is enough to stop it.

If I do shave, it's not a problem at all.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
And other people find that they have fewer BO issues when they allow their armpit hair to grow out. Which experience cancels out the other?

It's disingenuous to try and re-frame this as a hygiene issue. The thread you so helpfully jumped into was about cosmetic changes to the body, not about hygiene.
blitzwing: ([magi] Jafar)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-19 09:09 am (UTC)(link)
Mature adults are able to recognize that they aren't perfect

Body hair isn't a character flaw.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
But if they're willingly doing it because it's no skin off their nose and it makes their partner happy, how is that bad?

blitzwing: ([magi] Jafar)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-19 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
It's not necessarily bad for them, but I personally feel it's wrong to do to a partner.

Personally.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yet we all know that what concerns you personally must by also apply to everyone else because you are so smart and know everything.
blitzwing: ([magi] Jafar)

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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-19 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
Nope, not at all. What I value and what I find appropriate is not going to be the same for everyone.

Also, if you can refrain from the excessive compliments that would be great. You may not have heard, but I have an ego problem.
Edited 2015-04-19 03:22 (UTC)

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, right. Well, how about this? You are scum and nobody will ever really love you.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
Oi. Fuck off with that shit.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
shut up blitzy

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not even. Just an anon who doesn't like that kind of thing.

If nothing else, what makes you think Blitzwing would go anon about this