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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-20 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #3029 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3029 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Peep Show]


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[Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis]


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[Alexis Denisof]


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[Guardians of the Galaxy]



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[John Green]


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[Outlander]


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10.
[Selfie]


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11.
[Emilio Estevez]


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[His Dark Materials]


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13.
[Star Wars, Twilight]


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[Faux Pas]


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[Mass Effect]


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[The Black Lillies]










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lb_lee: M.D. making a shocked, confused face (serious thought)

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-20 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure. Maybe I watched Episodes I-III wrong, but until the whole "slaughtering kids" thing, I felt like I was supposed to be seeing Anakin as this tortured woobie who was only trying to do the right thing and if people just stopped getting in his way, things would be fine. It's part of why I never really had much interest in his character. Now, if the movies had managed to sell me that no, this was someone with major issues and douchebaggery who was also skilled and charismatic enough to manipulate the people around him, THAT I would've found fascinating. Possibly too frightening to watch, but fascinating.

--Rogan
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-04-20 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I got tortured woobie trying to do the right thing but having no idea what the right thing was and already having rage issues and no sense of control. He was already kind of fucked-up, and the Jedi made it worse, and then there was Palpatine trying to seduce him to the dark side. He had two warring father figures in Obi-Wan and Palpatine.

I don't think the movies justify what he did. I think they could have done better with showing more nuance, but I don't think we're supposed to think that he was okay and doing great.
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[personal profile] meganbmoore 2015-04-21 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
Have you watched Clone Wars? Since it's a TV show, they have a lot more time to get into Anakin's issues and plant the seeds of his later actions with the Jedi.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-04-21 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
I've watched the first two seasons. The rest is high on my list of things to watch, but I'm working through Rebels right now.
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[personal profile] meganbmoore 2015-04-21 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
I recommend watching the rest of Clone Wars before the Rebels finale. I mean, you don't HAVE to have seen the resto of CW, but it makes a couple things better.

If you haven't read it, the Rebels prequel book, A New Dawn is also pretty fun.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-04-21 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
I just read A New Dawn, which is actually what made me push Rebels to the front of my watch list because I fell in love with Kanan and Hera.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-20 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I fall somewhere between you and the OP. I thought the movies were trying to portray his relationship with Padme as this pure, beautiful thing that was corrupted by his slide into darkness. I don't think they did that well, but I thought that was what they were going for.

However, I also thought that we were meant to see Anakin himself as someone who was pretty flawed-- the anger issues, his pettiness about not being made a master when he joined the Council, and the whole "You're not all-powerful" "Well, I should be!" thing.

For me the prequels weren't so much about the horror of watching a fundamentally good person being corrupted by external evil, but about the horror of watching good people turn a blind eye to the evil growing slowly but steadily in their midst.
lb_lee: M.D. making a shocked, confused face (serious thought)

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-20 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
That's an interesting take! Yeah, I would've been way more interested in the story if it'd been pulled off better, because that sounds like it could be really interesting and add more moral grey to the Jedi.

Admittedly, though, it's been a LONG time since I saw those movies. I have the Rifftraxx for all three, and I PRESUMED I saw them at some point, but damned if I can remember a damn thing about them!

--Rogan
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-04-20 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Your last paragraph is exactly how I see it. I think that there was already a sort of apathy in the Republic and in the Jedi that Palpatine was able to exploit. You can see it right from the beginning because the Trade Federation would not have been able to do it otherwise. And as much as most people seem to hate the political scenes in TPM, I think they are important in showing that things in the galaxy have already gotten bad even before the Empire shows up.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2015-04-21 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
So much this!! And It's why I don't hate TPM the way most do. It sets a good stage, I think, that shows how easily the Republic was swayed.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-21 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
This would require Lucas to be a better writer. The guy is great with ideas. However, he is a horrible writer and he won't listen to anyone who tries to help him. Episodes V & VI are better because his influence was greatly restrained. Episodes I, II & III were his 'pure babies' and it shows.
lb_lee: M.D. making a shocked, confused face (serious thought)

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-21 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Return of the Jedi? With the Ewoks?
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2015-04-21 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
? The ewoks alone weren't enough to ruin ROTJ.
lb_lee: M.D. making a shocked, confused face (serious thought)

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-21 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I'm just surprised, since most of the fan reaction I'd heard was, "Episode IV and V were the good ones, VI is BAAAAD, fuckin ewoks rarr" and thread OP focused on V and VI.

--Rogan
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[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2015-04-21 12:04 pm (UTC)(link)
...am I the only person who likes the Ewoks?
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-21 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I like them!

--Sneak
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2015-04-22 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
I liked them too, though I admit at least part of that might come from being a kid when RotJ first came out and thinking they were a great mix of cute and cool. I was also a big fan of Caravan of Courage when I was young, though I hated the second Ewok movie.