[ SECRET POST #3029 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3029 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Peep Show]


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03.
[Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis]


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04.
[Alexis Denisof]


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05.
[Guardians of the Galaxy]



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08.
[John Green]


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09.
[Outlander]


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10.
[Selfie]


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11.
[Emilio Estevez]


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12.
[His Dark Materials]


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13.
[Star Wars, Twilight]


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14.
[Faux Pas]


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15.
[Mass Effect]


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16.
[The Black Lillies]










Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 067 secrets from Secret Submission Post #433.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: Calgary Expo Vs MRA women

[(Anonymous)]

Okay but this is like linking prolife.com in an abortion debate.

Re: Calgary Expo Vs MRA women

[(Anonymous)]

it's not a debate, it's an example of people being dickwads

no one is using it as a source to prove some assertion

they're saying "hey, this is a thing that happened"

Re: Calgary Expo Vs MRA women

[(Anonymous)]

The point I was making is it's a bad source.

Re: Calgary Expo Vs MRA women

[(Anonymous)]

why is it a bad source though, given that it's not being used for any particularly polemic point

Re: Calgary Expo Vs MRA women

[chardmonster]

And that's the same argument GG makes when some female developer or cosplayer says they were threatened. As a result, nothing gets fixed.

Re: Calgary Expo Vs MRA women

[(Anonymous)]

You're making the same argument any anti-choicer makes when they don't like what they're hearing.

Re: Calgary Expo Vs MRA women

[chardmonster]

You seem really married to this comparison that doesn't make any sense, dude. I'm really not sure what the connection between "I default to believing someone when they say they were harassed" and "let's not allow abortions" is.

Are you also going to say it's like racism and perhaps bigfoot sightings

Re: Calgary Expo Vs MRA women

[blitzwing]

You don't understand how primary sources work, do you nonny?

They're not like secondary sources, where you try to weed out the bad by sticking to reputable publishers and peer-reviewed journals. A primary source isn't an academic work--it's often a personal accounting. Something written on a napkin, or scrawled on a bathroom stall in poop can be a valid primary source.

You look to other primary sources to corroborate the validity of the primary source. For instance, the tweet of that guy saying he almost felt bad about flipping off the Vivian James cosplayer--that's another primary source that confirms that there *was* a Vivian James cosplayer at that con, and she did receive negative attention.

The tweet being from someone who is the ideological opposite of the KiA people even serves to help negate the required concerns about bias in the accounting.

In other words, all you've shown is that you don't understand how sources work. You'll have to find another excuse to derail the conversation and take the focus off of the woman who was victimized.

Re: Calgary Expo Vs MRA women

[chardmonster]

Yeah, but if you actaully want to fucking engage with people, you need to listen to them. Even if you don't like them.

You don't win the abortion debate by going "NYAH NYAH NYAH I DON'T HEAR YOU AND I WON'T EVEN ATTEMPT TO MAKE A CASE FOR ABORTION RIGHTS THAT REFUTES YOU." That's how you backslide. Which frankly I can see happening, a lot of people who oppose bigots think the best thing to do is create "safe spaces" rather than kicking the bigots' asses, which requires actual confrontation.