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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-23 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #3032 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3032 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Ioan Gruffudd/Horatio Hornblower]


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[ebooks tree]


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[Horrible Histories]


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[Burn Notice]


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[Bradley Cooper]


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[Grimm]


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[Assassin's Creed: UNITY]


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10. [POSSIBLE WARNING for suicide]


[David Walliams]


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[Game of Thrones]


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[Nina Dobrev]


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[The Avengers]


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[Fire Emblem: Awakening]


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Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 019 secrets from Secret Submission Post #433.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: slightly off-topic

(Anonymous) 2015-04-24 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I'd say most adults think that way. It's easier than admitting to themselves they're capable of doing really bad things.

Re: slightly off-topic

(Anonymous) 2015-04-24 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Capable is one thing. Not everyone seeks out the kind of life that provides the opportunities and excuses to do any of them.

Terrorists do of course, and often without the financial motivation.

Re: slightly off-topic

(Anonymous) 2015-04-24 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
The reason terrorists do terrible things without any financial motivation is because they think they're doing something really profoundly good, and that what they're trying to wipe out is evil. Evil enough to exploit them, kill their friends and family, and destroy their homelands. Evil enough that they need to be eliminated, because otherwise, they'll eliminate all the Truly Good People of the world.

Take all of the bad things the original anon is talking about the CIA doing. Modern terrorism is in part a response to that. If what the CIA does is evil, terrorists motivated by what the CIA has done to their people are...fighting against evil. And it's an evil that they see as a very real threat. A lot of the people who are recruited by terrorist groups are young, impressionable, and have seen some serious shit. They want to protect their homes. They think they're supporting a just and righteous cause.

And that's the problem: everyone is the hero of his own story. Everyone thinks he's good, even when he's not.

Re: slightly off-topic

(Anonymous) 2015-04-24 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

Well quite. So if we can say terrorism is evil or bad or wicked or whatever, we can say the same thing of the CIA.

I've no idea if that was your point or not, as it's nearly 2 am here and I have to go to bed now. Whether this was a troll secret or not, it was certainly an interesting thread.

Re: slightly off-topic

(Anonymous) 2015-04-24 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Well no, the point is that good and evil are usually relative.

I think the only people we can sort of say are evil are people who have no justifications whatsoever for doing the things they do, people who are completely without compassion and empathy. But people who do terrible things while still having compassion and empathy, and have fallen into a mindset where they believe the terrible things they're doing really aren't terrible at all, or are even good, aren't actually evil. That doesn't mean they aren't responsible or shouldn't be held accountable for what they've done, or that what they've done isn't wrong (if we can agree that it's wrong), but they're not mustache-twirling villains.

Re: slightly off-topic

(Anonymous) 2015-04-24 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

Ah, but not being able to feel empathy is hardly a choice, isn't it? If someone is born without the ability to feel compassion, or the ability to understand WHY something is right or wrong and commits deplorable actions because of this, would they (or should they) be considered "more evil" or less evil"?

Re: slightly off-topic

(Anonymous) 2015-04-24 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

But people who can't feel empathy are still able to understand right and wrong, most of them just don't care.

I think a complete inability to tell right from wrong probably isn't evil, because there's no opportunity for them to make a choice.

Re: slightly off-topic

(Anonymous) 2015-04-24 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
da

I'm pretty sure the inability to tell right from wrong is actually classified as insanity, since it's essentially the inability to comprehend the consequences of one's actions on a fundamental level.

So yeah, not evil in the sense of actively choosing something you know to be wrong, just pretty fucking scary.
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Re: slightly off-topic

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-04-24 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
To me, evil is about the choices you make. I'd call someone who is incapable of feeling empathy broken, messed up, scary, or even bad, but not necessarily evil, or at least not evil on the same level of people who are capable of feeling empathy, but choose not to.