[ SECRET POST #3033 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #3033 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Kushiel's Legacy]


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03.
[The Young Sherlock Holmes]


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04.
[Blake's 7]


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05.
[Doc Martin]


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07. http://i.imgur.com/XWQxPJy.jpg?2
[linked for close up shot of naked butt]


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08.
[Disney]


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10.
[Phantom of the Opera/Twilight]


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11.
[Captain America]


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12.
[Spec Ops: The Line]


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13. [SPOILERS for Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn]



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14. [SPOILERS for Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Episode VII)]



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15. [WARNING for incest]

[Folgers Coffee Commercial]


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16. [WARNING for suicide, emotional abuse]



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17. [WARNING for suicide]



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18. [WARNING for abusive parenting, domestic abuse]




















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #433.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

10. http://i.imgur.com/6jpVwez.png
[Phantom of the Opera/Twilight]

[(Anonymous)]

Phantom fan for over 20 years agreeing with you here, OP.

Also fuck the movie version.

[(Anonymous)]

+ 1

[(Anonymous)]

Word.

I agree with the secret, but lord I hate seeing Phantom represented by Schumacher's trash.

[cushlamochree]

At least equally, I'd say.

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't see Phantom until recently (Not an ALW fan) and was horrified at how many people built it up to me as beautiful and romantic before I saw it.

[(Anonymous)]

Most of my ships are problematic but I acknowledge that. :/

[(Anonymous)]

I can never understand people who ship clearly fucked up things in a "healthy" way. It's especially bad when they try to argue the reasons why the relationship is so great.

Just acknowledge that your ship is fucked up and no one will care.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. It's the difference between people who enjoy action movies and people who loudly fantasize about how awesome shooting "criminals" is and how if they were FORCED to, they'd be hella good at it.

[intrigueing]

My issue is that I don't understand WHY they want to ship these things in a healthy way. I mean, isn't the entire reason unhealthy ships are appealing is precisely because they're fucked up? The taboo, not-like-real-life, id-based longings unhealthy relationships tap into? So wouldn't portraying the ship as healthy just ruin all of that? IDGI.

[sarillia]

I sometimes wonder the same sort of thing about people who take the concept of kink-shaming so far that they don't want to hear the slightest negative thing about their kink. But if you like it because it's fucked up, then why is it insulting for someone to say it's fucked up? I mean, obviously people do get really insulting about it and I get why people get offended at that point, but that's not always how it goes.

[(Anonymous)]

Some people really have trouble acknowledging that they like fucked up things, I see it all the time when people want to justify liking villains. I always say who cares if you like a villain, it's fiction, it doesn't reflect who you are as a person. But for some reason there are people out there that think if they find any level of morally reprehensible behavior entertaining that reflects on their character. So they think they shouldn't like fucked up relationships in fiction even though they do.

And then there are also people who just DON'T SEE IT and might truly believe that the relationship isn't fucked up.

[(Anonymous)]

Christine in original novel even acknowledges the id-based desires Erik rouses in her (though not using that word).

Some people are plain ashamed of liking villains or fucked up things. And a lot of Phantom fans discover it as teenagers, when it's fairly normal to justify all our feelings as totally reasonable. People who see Erik/Christine as healthy are just desperate to.

[(Anonymous)]

I dunno, I like an unhealthy relationship where everyone knows that it's unhealthy, Makes it hotter and also makes you think that becasue they're into it with eyes open it may be ok in the end?

BUt yeah, Erik>>>>>>>>>>>>>Edward.

[iggy]

100% agreed.

[(Anonymous)]

Why would you ship anyone as a healthy relationship? I'm bored just thinking about it.

[(Anonymous)]

Idk Ghibili love is hardly boring ;)

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, this made me laugh, but it's so true! Perfect example. :)

Transcript

[(Anonymous)]

Image: Erik and Christine

I think the people who ship this as a healthy relationship

Image: Edward and Bella

are even more delusional than the people who ship this as a healthy relationship.

There, I said it.

[(Anonymous)]

The number of people that confuse love and obsession both saddens and scares the EVERLOVEING FUCK out of me...

[(Anonymous)]

I was about to be like "Wait, who the fuck thinks that they're a healthy couple?" and then I was suddenly bombarded by repressed memories of my time in the "phandom" and...yeah, there sure were a lot of crazy shippers there who thought that Erik was a flawless prince and that Raoul was basically Satan. Hoo boy, that fandom was intense

[redseeker]

Whyyy is there such an obsession in fandoms these days with whose ship is "healthier"?

[(Anonymous)]

Because unhealthy ships = problematic, so it's a race to designate your ship as healthiest of them all so that it can be least problematic and you can feel assured in the righteousness of your shipping preferences. If that's not possible, then you have to designate one or more ships as being the unhealthiest so that at least you're not the most problematic one around.

[(Anonymous)]

- Because fen aren't happy unless they're clutching their pearls over someone else's preferences.

- Because social justice warring has become so mainstream that you must be downright puritanical in everything if you want to conform.

- Because people are incapable of understanding the concept of a fantasy.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm with you all the way, OP. I ship E/C because it's messed up. Making it into a healthy one is like.. I want chocolate cake. Instead I get angelfood. If I wanted angelfood, I'd have ordered it.