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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-02 03:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #3041 ]


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The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-02 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Because I started reading/writing that kind of stuff when I was about 13-14.

Like, 14 year old me was writing fic about 14 year old characters hooking up with 25 year olds.

And now as an almost 25 year old, it does skeeve me out I'll admit but I don't really feel I can justify criticizing anyone who writes that kind of fic because it's not like I didn't do it myself at that age.

Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-02 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I wrote that stuff when I was 13 and I still write that stuff now and I don't think there's anything skeevy about it. I get why some people may not be into that, but I side-eye anyone who has a problem with what other people get off to.

Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-02 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
"I side-eye anyone who has a problem with what other people get off to."

I...am kind of judgmental about stuff with kids. I remember someone posted a prompt from the Supernatural kink meme about sex with five year old kids and I was like NOPE. I mean, I get that people can't control what they get off to but that's just a line I can't cross.

I'm generally okay with most things but...

Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-02 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt I'm obviously judgemental about anything that involves real kids, but if it's just written or drawn fiction, I don't really care. There are lots of kinks out there that I personally find disgusting, but there are probably also people who find my kinks disgusting so ... as long as nobody is getting hurt (and by "getting hurt" I mean real people in the real world getting abused or raped, not someone being offended by someone else's fanfic), who cares?

Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-02 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT, but the fact that someone's getting off on a story about kids at all.

Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-02 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah but what differences does it make? That stuff is usually tagged. You can just ignore it. You can choose not to interact with people who write it. It literally makes no difference to the rest of the fandom.

But I kinda love how the comments in this thread prove OP's point.

Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-02 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Who gives a crap, they're not harming anyone reading it. Are we going to judge women who get off on fictional rape then? Cause that will mean judging a huge portion of the population, given non con being maybe the no1 female fantasy.

Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-02 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. And 13 isn't the oldest I've heard of.

I mean, there's RL examples of it, but they're either victims of misaimed fandoms (see: Lolita) or just as controversial.

Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-02 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
*Youngest.
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Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2015-05-02 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Ngl, I'm totally judgmental about that, but at the same time I'm also okay with it as long as it is completely fictional. No lusting after someone's real life five-year old and shit like that.

Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-02 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
True, but isn't that true for every kink?

You can enjoy fictional noncon, but no wanting actual rape to happen to you/others. You can get off fictional torture, but no actual torturing your partner. You can get off fictional humiliation, but not degrade anyone (unless they're into humiliation play).

Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-02 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
You really don't understand why someone would have a problem with a story about a 25 year old and a 13 year old?

Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-02 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a story. I understand why people don't want to read it, but why would it bother anyone that someone out there likes to write stories you find creepy?

Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-02 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Because no healthy 25 year old would find a 13 year old sexually attractive.

If that's your kink, that's what you're getting off on, whether it's fictional or not.

Rape fantasy is a completely different issue because of the way society turns female sexuality into such a shameful thing, fantasies where giving up control absolves of the shame, or is the only way a woman thinks it's acceptable to be desirable is one thing. I find it very hard to find any justifiable reason why adults sexually attracted to children is in any way okay, sorry.

Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-02 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
>If that's your kink, that's what you're getting off on, whether it's fictional or not.

Uhhh, no. I love fictional painplay, it's my number 1 kink to read. But actually receiving and giving pain in irl in sexual play does absolutely nothing to me. My girlfriend used to RP bloodplay because it's her hotbuttn kink. IRL? She is s squicked by blood, she gags even at a small cut.

Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-02 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Better tell Hollywood that most of us have a problem with murder, and hence to stop making movies about the hero gruesomely killing people.

Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-02 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Didn't you know that violence is cool with Hollywood/US media and just a naked boob scene in a nonviolent movie needs to be rated R?
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Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-05-02 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
OT, but I kind of want to tell someone that most of us aren't cool with having the hero torture people. (At least, I hope not.)

Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-02 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Who cares? It's a story. Some people find May-December relationships hot in fiction.

IN FICTION being the operating term here. You know, that thing where people can differentiate between real life and a story they're reading? Like, I am totally into incest in my fictional porn, but that doesn't mean I'm into the idea of humping my own brother or something. Rational people have a rational disconnect.

Now, people on Tumblr who act like fiction is literally their entire lives, I can see why the lines would blur for them. After all, they have no lives outside of fic, so obviously someone condoning non-con or what-have-you in fic means they condone it in real life to them. However, that's objectively ridiculous, and they shouldn't be listened to.

Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
...that you call a relationship between an adult and a CHILD 'may-december' is really skeevy. It's not some silver fox falling for a woman in her 20s. It's straight up inappropriate.

Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-02 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I keep seeing 190924 noted posts on tumblr going "Protect children from Steven Universe porn! Make Steven Universe a safe place for children!"
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Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

[personal profile] otakugal15 2015-05-02 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I was reading adult fic at 12. Pokemon adult fic (ash/misty), a few Sailor Moon, Gundam Wing was a DEFINITE once I hit 14.

Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
kids younger than that use the internet. i know some of you would like to believe they all have amazingly attentive parents that supervise all the time, but that truth isn't that pretty. they should be able to do a google search of their favorite character without porn popping up.
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Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-05-03 09:13 am (UTC)(link)
This is like saying that beer shouldn't be sold because some parents are dumb enough to leave their open beer cans out unattended where their toddlers can take a drink.

We can't childproof the world just because some people are careless parents.
Edited 2015-05-03 09:13 (UTC)

Re: The whole "think of the children" angle is weird to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-03 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
And thank god for that, cause I really enjoyed my porn when I hit puberty!