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I JUST SAW IT TODAY AHHHH

It was so good!! Loved it! Also Bruce is my favorite so A+++.

Interestingly, I was not expecting his thing with Nat to work out as well as it did. But while I don't have any AoU recs at all (yet...I will be browsing this thread!) I do have one for a really good Bruce/Nat fic that was written post-first movie if you'd like it.

I wasn't sure how this movie's Bruce would hold up to my expectations, but I was so happy with how he was written and, honestly, I loved the focus on all of the characters - especially Bruce, Nat and Clint since they don't have their own movies and aren't generally as developed in terms of backstory as the other three. ALSO, can I just say I love Nat and Clint's friendship. I wavered for a while on whether I shipped them romantically, but I think this just works out so well for them, and it's super rad to have a close m/f relationship shown like that.

At the beginning, after seeing the twins, I was like "man it would be so cool to have them on the Avengers' side." THEN GUESS WHAT? Also, do you think Pietro is really dead, or just Joss!dead? I think he's dead, but one of the people I went to see it with thinks he'll be back. IDK. It's nice in a narrative to sometimes just let a death be a death - but I was also super heartbroken for Wanda. :(

Loved all the funny lines. Love, love, loved the party scene so much. So much friendshippy adorable fluff. (Slice-of-life fics anyone? :3)

There are so many other things I could comment on...but most of it just boils down to "that was awesome". Also I loved the humor, I feel like there was even more of it than before and it was so spot-on for all of the characters.

/goes to read rest of thread

Well, now I feel like I watched a different movie from everybody else. :/

But maybe I just have different expectations. I expect an Avengers movie to be full of action and one-liners, and that's what I go to see...so I got what I wanted.

Also, I'm really not a movie buff at all so I probably just have low standards?

Kind of disappointed though that nobody else here is squeeing. I feel a bit deflated now.

Aw, I'm not totally squeeing but don't feel bad, people are being over critical because we're all used to the super hero movies now and I think it's difficult to maintain that level of hype that there was for the first Avengers.

It's inevitable, geeks always turn and get critical.

I have a few beefs but I'm still pretty much on the Marvel bandwagon, and overall the movie did exactly what it was supposed to do. These are fun super hero movies with a lot of action and comedy, and Ultron definitely delivered all that.

I guess part of it is that I didn't spend a lot of time or energy hyping for it beforehand? Hm.

We didn't either, and while I did enjoy it, I did feel like there was quite a bit left on the cutting room floor that might have better fleshed parts out. Such as the whole Thor and the pool of water thing. Places like Ropes of Silicon, IO9, etc made a big deal about some woman that was spotted standing or rising from the pool and trying to figure out who it was in footage that was supposedly leaked months before the release, and well, it wasn't even in the movie.

That scene in particular is just... disjointed I guess would be a good way to put it.

And the movie needed more Heimdal.

Awwww, sorry. I don't want to harsh your squee or anything and overall I did enjoy it more the second time! Squee away!

I will talk to you about things I liked. I loved Nat and Clint's continued friendship, and I loved seeing her as auntie Nat, it was cute as hell. Also her friendship with Steve too, that wasn't swept under the rug either.

I cared more the second time seeing Pietro die and it was mostly because of Wanda's reaction, that scream looked pretty intense and it hit me properly on another viewing. Vision was totally cool as well, could have done with a bit more of him maybe, but as far as a new character went I liked him.

(Also I don't actually hate Bruce/Nat or think it's the worst ever, it was just a little eeeeeh for me, I mean fuck I wanted to like it more! I'm actually gonna wait for fic to fix it a little because the same happened with Thor/Jane in fanfic for me).

No, nobody harshed on my squee in particular! I was just surprised by all the negativity overall. I didn't expect everyone to ~~love~~ it but honestly I really liked it and it felt just like any other MCU movie to me so I was surprised that people who like MCU were so disappointed with it. But then, standards, I guess? Maybe I'm just not good at discerning details in movies.

(In general, though, I don't know why people go into superhero movies expecting something written on a level of literary expertise. It's superheroes ffs)

Yeah, Wanda's reaction was pretty heartbreaking. :/ His death would have bothered me a lot less if he weren't a twin. And if he didn't have a superpower that was pretty unique compared to everyone else.

Ironically, Vision, while cool, fell flatter to me than some of the other characters. Hmm. Related: I was so excited that JARVIS wasn't dead, but I guess now JARVIS doesn't really exist anymore? and that makes me kinda sad.

For me it was how disjointed it felt to the rest of the MCU, like this wasn't even me being overly nitpicky(which I am bad at) because even my mum(who isn't as into these films as I am) was like 'where does that fit with the other films?' and I was just a little bit gruntled about that. But oddly my second viewing had me liking it more, I don't get it but I'll take it tbh.

(I'm just trying to focus on the bits I liked, it's more fun that way).

Unfortunately I was spoiled for his death so I think that's part of the reason I didn't really care the first time, but the second? It kind of sucked to watch. I think mostly I'd just have liked to have seen more of him as well, flesh him out a bit more yanno? Because we barely got to know him, which I suppose is part of the sad factor but still. Rude.

Yeah that's a weird one. Like technically the Vision is JARVIS but also not, he's a new person so I think it's safe to say that Mr. AI butler is no more. Which is a sad thing but I also just kind of like Vision from the comics so uh, yay Vision!

Oh! Also Thor's quest, while a bit too cut apart imo, was cool to see and I liked how it started the set up to Infinity Wars. That's making me more excited for Thor 3 tbh.

Edited 2015-05-04 02:21 (UTC)

Among my friends, general concensus is that Pietro isn't dead, but is in a stasis of sorts while his body rejects and heals from the bullets. It *is* a superhero setting after all, stranger things have happened.

Either way, I feel his 'death' served to make Wanda come into her own. I felt she relied on him way too much, even if he was '12 minutes older'. This, proves to her that she is stronger than she knew and can take care of herself and hold her own if she needed to.

I will squee with you. It was everything I wanted and expected. Fun action with some humor and drama thrown in.

Yay!! :D

Even food poisoning could not bring me down.

Aww don't feel bad. Whenever something gets super popular, there's a backlash and people turn critical.

It wasn't a perfect movie, but it was great fun and I really enjoyed it. Squeeing right along with you!

I don't think Pietro is really dead, they took his body with them and they have that device that can help with healing, so they may try to write their way out of it.

I agree that it's good for characters to stay dead but I don't think Pietro would be the right choice in that regard. I think it'd be stupid to introduce him just to kill him off.

I DO want them to eventually kill off one of the main Avengers though.

It would largely suck because he's a twin...it always feels like killing off half of a unit when you have a twin die in a story.

Out of curiosity why do you want them to kill off an Avenger, and which one/how?

I want them to kill of an Avenger because I always have trouble in action heavy movies when NO ONE dies. I know this is fantasy but it gets hard for me to feel like the threat is at all real if everyone is always saved in the end and therefor the action gets boring. We've had two "deaths" so far but one didn't stick and I doubt the other one will either.

I also want a main Avenger to die because it will carry more emotional weight. Pietro's death was a little too soon, I was sad because I like Pietro in other media, but like, only Wanda was even capable of caring? None of the other Avengers even knew him.

I have a feeling they might kill some people off towards the end of the franchise anyway.

I don't want them all to die or anything, because that'd be excessive, but one or two deaths that stick would work for me.

As far as who? I don't know. Tony could go because RDJ is getting too expensive and I feel like we've had plenty of him. A lot of people have been theorizing that Steve will go though, especially since he could be replaced by Bucky.

I would literally read any Bruce or Bruce/Nat fic that you recced I am SO THIRSTY and I love both of them so much.

(Nice icon ahhhhh I am so head over heels for Bruce Banner rn for so many reasons)

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