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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-13 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #3052 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3050 ⌋

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[Falcon Densetsu/F-Zero GP Legends]


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(Stephen Paul Manderson aka Professor Green, Never Mind the Buzzcocks)


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[Elysium]


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[Jeremy Renner]















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(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
can't say i blame you because hey, health, good life, etc.

the whole thing never made sense

the robots were fucking ready to go attend people

was energy in too short a supply to send them out or what

why was it not feasible to help everyone

was there any reason other than "lol rich people are jerks"?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing is there's no reason why earth would have to be a crapsack world in such a scenario. If you had machines that were self-running and could cure cancer in seconds why not send a couple hundred to earth to run things and cure all disease?

It falls short as a metaphor as well given the billions of dollars America's spent in foreign aid.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
exactly

it's not like there weren't enough robots to go around

or that there wasn't enough electrical power to keep them going

if the supply is, for practical purposes, seemingly infinite, then the only reason not to use it is to make the bad guys just bad for the sake of it

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-05-14 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
One of the things that helped me see Elysium in a more favorable light was an interview with Lauren Beukes talking about how South African science fiction is saying all of the things they couldn't say a decade ago, and that, yes, health care disparities built around the legacy of segregation are really that bad.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
That movie made no goddamn sense, but Elysium did look pretty. It was supposed to.

On an unrelated note, the movie would also have made a lot more sense without the shoehorned love interest. The real chemistry was between the two guys but they had to throw that all away two thirds in. There was a great movie in there struggling to get past the mess.
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[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2015-05-13 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I just want Sharlto Copley to be cast in everything. He's always amazing even with mediocre material.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Sharlto? People probably can't get past the weird name.

(also, how did I know he was South African? I know all countries have their own weird names, but this one struck me as obviously South African, and I don't know why)

(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, some people in his AMA figured out it was a messed-up spelling of Sholto (odd Scottish name). His mom heard it in a radio play, which would explain why she didn't know how to spell it.
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[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2015-05-13 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
is this comment for real? what does his name have to do with anything? it sounds like a perfectly fine name to me.

Isn't this already how the world is though?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to quite that extent, since we obviously don't have some of the film's technology.

But if you look at the gulf between the rich and the poor, it's basically this.

I mean, according to the Global Rich List, if you make $20,000 a year then you're in the richest 3.65% of the population.

I think that puts everyone here in that category.

Re: Isn't this already how the world is though?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
OP

Yes, but Elysium's world is almost deliberately constructed to create the hugest possible gap between the well-off, who can live in eternal sunlight, live in custom palatial homes, and anything they want can be plucked from the Earth below, and the poor on Earth, whose lives are the deepest irony: their jobs are either to pull resources from the planet for Elysium, or to fabricate more of the tools they use to enslave themselves and others on Earth itself.

But in our world, there's more room for in-betweens and the chance to live a smidgen better than that. While the system on Earth is not as consciously constructed like that I do concede there are powerful interests in preserving the status quo.
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[personal profile] nightscale 2015-05-14 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
It was a very pretty looking place. But tbh that's how I felt about the entire movie, lots of pretty scenery, sets and stuff but other than that it didn't make much sense.

Especially since most of the movie could have been avoided if the rich people had just sent down a bunch of those ships with the healing pods on them from the start, they'd get less people trying to sneak onto Elysium then.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-14 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
Man, this movie stole a lot of elements from Battle Angel Alita and executed them terribly (though no doubt BAA is derivative of another series as well).

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-14 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
Image: the eponymous space habitat from Elysium

Text: I would love to lvie here, but I feel terrible about knowing it would be at the expense of plundering the entire Earth and robbing billions of people of the chance to live better lives.