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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-14 07:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #3053 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3053 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Kid (Charlie Chaplin)/Starsky & Hutch ("Gillian")]


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[Network]


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[Sci-Fi/Fantasy]


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[In Plain Sight]


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[Captain America: Civil War]


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[Samurai Warriors]


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08. https://i.imgur.com/Tr3NZUD.jpg
[NSFW image (shirtless 16 year old? girl), discussion of underage sexuality]


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[Joss Whedon]
















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(Anonymous) 2015-05-15 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
It's one of the reasons I'm sincerely hoping The Goblin Emperor wins best novel. Not only is it wonderful and deserving of all the awards, but it was written by a woman and has a biracial (goblin/elf) protagonist.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-15 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
but it was written by a woman and has a biracial (goblin/elf) protagonist

And this kind of bullshit is exactly why the Sad Puppies evolved. Who gives a shit about the gender of the author or the "biracial" (LOL I THINK YOU MEAN INTERSPECIES OR SOME WORD CONNOTING HALF-BREED) nature of the character?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-15 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
My sense is that they care about those elements of it specifically because it would piss off the Puppies.

So, in other words, the answer to the question "who gives a shit about that stuff" is: the Puppies do.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-15 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
obviously you do since you're shitting yourself over it

(Anonymous) 2015-05-15 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Really?

I mean, while I think it's dumb, I can kind of see people taking issue with the female author part. Me, I think women and people of various races and cultures bring something different to a book in the writing, and I like to make sure I have a spread. But if you don't care, whatever.

But finding a half elf, half goblin protagonist to be an interesting idea is a *problem*? In what universe?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-15 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
I hate to say this because I loathe the SPs but that kind of thinking is what set them off. Yes, they are overreacting to the nth degree but, while I totally understand liking something in part because of liking the not-cis-straight-white-maleness involved (I'm openly excited for Star Wars VII because the hero is black!), we should celebrate good SF for what makes the work truly good and unique. Women can still write bad books ("Save the Pearls" anyone?) and a character's race doesn't automatically make them more interesting. APPEALING, perhaps, but a crappily written character will make you hate how they represent a group, with or even without racist undertones. Diversity is important and should be promoted but quality MUST come first.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-15 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
nyart

Which is probably why they mentioned it's "wonderful and deserving of all the awards" first. Anon isn't suggesting we submit shitty work just for the sake for diversity, they're hoping that it wins because it's good AND would piss off the SPs.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-16 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I would sort of argue that a lack of diversity is an inherently shitty way to write. I mean women are over 50% of the population, what kind of terrible Deus Ex Machina plotholes do you have to come up with to exclude them? Except those plotholes are so common we've learned to shrug and overlook them, even though they're inherently bad writing.