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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-17 03:49 pm

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Re: Advice Column

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-05-17 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
It might just be a question of not identifying with the more vocal and extremist parts of a movement rather than not sharing philosophies/ideals. If this is the case, and your boyfriend is actually a feminist without wanting to call himself one, then it will probably work out. If he's not... well.

Then I'd say it won't.

Re: Advice Column

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
your boyfriend is actually a feminist without wanting to call himself one,

This is a bullshit fucking line of reasoning, can we knock it the fuck off with this shit

Re: Advice Column

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-05-17 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
No. No we can't. There are a hundred reasons for someone to not identify with the feminist movement.

I still consider myself one, but the amount of times someone has tried to oust me or tell me I can't be a feminist because I am a man is staggering. If I were more reactive or had a thinner skin I might have also been pretty discouraged by encountering this kind of discrimination from people calling themselves feminists.

Re: Advice Column

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
No. What I mean is, if he doesn't identify as a feminist, he's not a feminist. He may have good reasons for not identifying as a feminist; I have no idea. But you can't just pretend that he's a secret feminist.

Re: Advice Column

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-05-17 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
That's not what I was getting at. I'm not claiming anyone for any movement if they don't wish to be a part of that movement.

I was just using it as shorthand to denote that their beliefs align with the core belief system (i.e. gender equality, not being a complete d-bag) of feminism.

Re: Advice Column

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, I see your point.

Although I still reject (as see below) the understanding of what it means to be a feminist that you're referring to here, but I see the point you were making was something separate from that idea.

Re: Advice Column

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

I think that anon thought you were claiming him as a feminist even if he didn't want to be one, not that he was reluctant to use the label even though he wants to.

Re: Advice Column

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-05-17 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, seems so. But I wouldn't do that.

I sure don't jive with some of the beliefs or arguments some of the more radical feminist groups have put forward in my day, after all.