[ SECRET POST #3058 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3058 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Ughhhhh

[(Anonymous)]

There is nothing creepy about two adults being married. There is something at least somewhat creepy about bringing your masturbatory fantasies to a writing workshop.

Re: Ughhhhh

[blitzwing]

OP hasn't said anything about anything really fap worthy. So the girl has a nice body and is an appealing person. That's masturbatory? You should see some of the shit fandom writes. Has OP never read a fanfic before?

Come back when he writes 10k describing a blowjob. Then I'll believe he's bringing masturbatory fantasies to the workshop.

Re: Ughhhhh

[(Anonymous)]

You don't think it's masturbatory at all to write a story where your post midlife crisis self insert hooks up with someone thirty years younger than you who has a conventionally hot body and blandly perfect personality that's utterly superficial outside of their devotion to you? OP indicates further down in the comments (where they paste part of their critique, which wasn't just "lol this was creepy take ur fap fantasy somewhere else!!!" like everyone ITT seems to be assuming) that the author writes the love interest poorly and thoughtlessly, so that she never truly reacts to the bad things that happen to her and that the story ends up reading as if she's just going through the motions, which isn't at all what the author intended. From what OP has written, it wasn't about two people falling in love. The love interest wasn't written as a person. It was just about his self insert getting a hot 20-something trophy.

Something doesn't have to be literal porn to be masturbatory.

Re: Ughhhhh

[blitzwing]

No, I would call that wish-fulfillment. There's a difference between wish-fulfillment and masturbatory. "and then the fairy touched me with her magic wand, and my horrible chronic disease was cured forever" is wish-fulfillment. It's not meant to satisfy sexual desires or lust.

"And then I met a perfect loving partner with great abs who never forgot to pick up the dry cleaing or mow the lawn, and loved to hear about my pedicures" is wish-fulfillment. It's not sex-centric.

OP's classmate's 22-year old character sounds like they're a wish-fulfillment. That can also make a character flat and unrealistic. It doesn't make them masturbatory though.

Re: Ughhhhh

[(Anonymous)]

... I don't think you understand the colloquial usage of the word.

Re: Ughhhhh

[blitzwing]

I do, in that in writing, it's often used for when a writer is writing for themselves, to scratch their own itches, rather than for readers.

Masturbatory and wish fulfillment aren't synonymous terms though--the latter can be the former, but it's sometimes not. Wish fulfillment stories can be appealing to an audience. Masturbatory, in the colloquial sense, are not.

OP seems to be using "masturbatory" to give it a sexual-fulfillment vibe--especially since she mentions "creepy fantasies". They don't seem to be using it in the colloquial sense--but rather to allude to it being fap fodder, or something close.

Re: Ughhhhh

[(Anonymous)]

So you were being pedantic on purpose. Got it.

Re: Ughhhhh

[blitzwing]

Nope.

Re: Ughhhhh

[(Anonymous)]

the author writes the love interest poorly and thoughtlessly

... which could be because the author isn't a great writer and that's why he's taking a writing class - to learn how to write better.

Re: Ughhhhh

[(Anonymous)]

... which could be why OP pointed out the area where they need improvement.

Re: Ughhhhh

[(Anonymous)]

Which they could do in a way without making personal value judgments about the subject of the story.