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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-21 06:23 pm

[ SECRET POST #3060 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3060 ⌋

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Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-21 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Marvel SJW's did have a break down after Mackie made this comment, and they still haven't forgave him. At this point I think they are just hoping Sebastian Stan doesn't make any stupid comments because he's the last one left that's ~unproblamatic~. Maybe Chris Pratt too but I'm not sure.

I think that problematic tumblr stopped updating so that's why he's not on a list. Unless there's some other list somewhere on tumblr.

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-21 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw ONE post about Mackie and people have forgotten it by now. It is very annoying how they go on and on about how scared they are someone might do something problematic.

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-22 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe we just look at different places? Because where I look they were pretty pissed, haven't forgotten it, and they hoped that he would become the reboot Capn' once Evan's contract runs out here soon.

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-21 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
No, what I'm talking about is when Avengers Age of Ultron was about to come out, they were all spreading around a list of problematic things the actors had said.

And it really pissed me off that they didn't include Mackie when a lot of the actors (like Evans) have said things that are so much more minor in comparison AND apologized for it.

They gave Mackie a free pass compared how they shit on everyone else.

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-21 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I think all the hate for sjws is kinda stupid, but I gotta agree.
Hate the actors all you want, fine. But don't purposely try to ruin everyone's fun and shame them from seeing the movie/their favorite actors.

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-21 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess I don't follow tumblr marvel tag religiously enough then? Could have been because I was avoiding AoU spoilers at the time and missed it.

I just know the places I frequent and yeah they are still pissed and didn't give him a free pass. Just because a supposed list of all SJW wrong didn't include it doesn't mean everyone gave him a free pass.

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-21 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate how everyone in the MCU fandom forgets about Mark Ruffalo, who's a genuinely likable guy who's gunning for green energy and equal rights. He's such a sweetheart in his interviews, too.

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-21 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope. He is problematic too. He used the word gypsy repeatedly on the uhhhh that British talk show where people sit on couches. MARK RUFFALO IS DEAD TO THEM!

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-21 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh, whoops! I haven't seen that, which is weird because I love his Graham Norton stuff.

I'm wondering what context was behind that, though?

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-21 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
The Liz said her character was dressed like a gypsy, Norton told her it was offensive. Ruffalo and Renner were trashed and started chanting it because Norton told them to stop.

source: jellycar on livejournal and her bike

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-21 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh, for the whole Bruce/Nat controversy, I saw some parts of fandom accuse him forcing bruce/nat into the aou script and purposely making Scarlett uncomfortable. Even though there's literally no evidence of that and watching any interview with Mark and Scarlett will show you that they get along perfectly well and consider each other friends. I saw a few people send him a few stupid tweets about how much they hated bruce/nat too.
Like if you hate Bruce/Nat fine, whatever. But don't shit on the actual actors okay that's not cool.

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-21 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
That's fucking ridiculous, where would they even get that notion?

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-22 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Because idk clintasha shippers (the ones I mostly saw making the accusations) are balls to the wall batshitcrazy for coco puffs.

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-22 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen those rumors and don't believe it. I've been a fan of his for a while now and it seems wildly out of character, not to mention something cooked up on Tumblr to go along with the 'ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE PROBLEMATIC!!1' hype.

I'm completely with you on the whole hating actors because of ships thing. It's embarrassing as hell and I hate that it's so easy to project those things on actors these days thanks to social media.

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-22 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
I know, it's so damn mean.
It wasn't a huge part of the fandom, but it was enough to make me really annoyed, I mean holy crap stop projecting your stupid ship drama on real people please.
And it's also pretty ironic because out of the whole cast, Ruffalo is probably the one who's said and done the least amount of dumb shit lol.

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-22 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, good lord. Romany butthurt is one of the more ridiculous corners of SJW wank.

Like, yeah, there are some terrible stereotypes, but Western Europeans and Americans very often don't even mean "gypsy" (or "gitane") as an insult. It's a word for a romanticized nomadic lifestyle.

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-23 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to mention Gypsy is still a generally accepted term in the UK, where the interview took place. AFAIK it's still on the census. Not that being on government forms is a pass, but it's the only term I've heard the group use to identify themselves. From what I've heard, Norton's reaction is more about his own issues* than the PC term.

*I read (but haven't confirmed) that his family is Irish Traveller, who are included in the same category on the census but are distinct in many ways.

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-21 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Ruffalo <3
It's not that surprising though, I mean most of the fandom totally ignores Bruce. I mean hell even Hawkguy gets way more fanfic and fanart then him.
:/

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-21 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Fellow Bruce fan <3

That just means there's more for us to love, right? But I totally get the frustration, too. I'm actually way more excited than I should be about the Bruce Banner action figure that's coming out soon.

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-21 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
THERES A NEW BRUCE ACTION FIGURE?!?!!
O:

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-21 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeeeeep! It's unfortunately (or fortunately, for marketing purposes) a multipack that I think also includes Widow, Hawkeye, and Thor.

But to hell with those three, I'm buying it for Bruce!

Re: The Double standards are what gets to me

(Anonymous) 2015-05-23 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you happen to have a link about this so I can see if it's making it's way to the UK? Because a Banner action figure deserves it's place on my nerd shelf and my five year old would flip her lid for a Black Widow action figure. Her dad made sure she ended up with the pop-out paper model when we went to Subway and I thought she was going to to have an aneurysm.