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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-23 03:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #3062 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-05-23 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Same thought has crossed my mind.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-23 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
"Cops aren't exactly popular"? That's supposed to be a good reason not to do something? Cops aren't popular not because being a cop is a bad thing, it's because cops AREN'T BEING COPS PROPERLY. It's like saying you don't want to be a cook because people are mad at cooks for putting cheap toxic ingredients in their food.

Also, jsyk, I heard that one of those two cops who were murdered in December in NYC joined the academy in his mid-30s.

Plus, there are all kinds of consultancy jobs to help with detective work, onces that don't involve being an actual cop and passing physical requirements. Detective work usually requires a MUCH bigger team of people than what's shown on TV.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-23 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
If people were mad enough at cooks so that the entire profession was tarnished and cooks were distrusted to the same extent as cops, under pressure to cover up for fellow cooks who were corrupt AND occasionally made a target for injury/death, then I'd say it's perfectly reasonable not to be a cook.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-23 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure, but that's not "people are mad at cooks", it's "cooks are kind of institutionally awful", which is not the point that OP was making

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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2015-05-23 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Even assuming the OP is definitely from the US (which may not be the case - "cops aren't popular" is a pretty vague statement that could apply to a lot of countries to different extents), doesn't this vary from state to state?

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I watched the mayor's Undercover Boss.

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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2015-05-23 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
All of this! I'm seconding your comment as somebody who just changed her degree to forensic anthropology, one of the underappreciated and overlooked disciplines under the "detective work" umbrella.

And - in the UK, at least - there is no official upper age limit for joining the force. Though, of course, if the OP is in their late 40s/50s, it isn't really a good idea.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-23 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Forensic anthropology sounds exciting, good for you! :)

(Anonymous) 2015-05-23 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Here it would depend on the municipality. Some may have a hard age cut off, some may only make passing the physical (and the physical training course). The US doesn't have a monolithic standard.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-05-23 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I did not recognize you at first with your icon change.

That icon is adorable and amusing. I don't even know who that is but.

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-23 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I knwo what you mean, anon. I like some cop shows like Rookie Blue (or for that matter CSI-lite shows like The Flash), but they present such an idealized portrait of the police and justice system it's hard to really admit to liking them.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-23 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
You could always be the next best thing, a serial killer. You still have the gore and the puzzle element. You get the illicit thrill of seeing the life actually fading out of someone's eyes too, which only a lucky few white cops will ever have. Honestly, you should try it OP.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-23 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
0/10. Troll harder.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-23 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
But what if they decided that their preferred victim were mediocre FS trolls?
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where is that like button...

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-23 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Time for somebody's nappie!

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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2015-05-23 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
This is actually an awful advice. You're almost certainly going to get a psychological trauma you'll be unable to get any counselling for, AND you're pretty likely to get caught. The percentage of forensics people/cops who get to see a case successfully resolved is much higher than the percentage of murderers who manage to get away with what they've done.

/sarcasm.
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-05-23 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe you should look into some other jobs where you get to solve puzzle problems and use your mental skills to find answers. Detectives aren't the only ones that do that.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-24 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
In the biological sciences, taxonomy is often that way; so is epidemiology. Also museum work, archaeology, history. OP might enjoy checking into some sort of citizen science program for archaeology or conservation biology, or becoming involved with a local museum or historical society, to try the field on for size.

You could try something police adjacent.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-23 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Something in the forensic field, an insurance investigator, or even a PI (the license requirements are dependent on the state).

Re: You could try something police adjacent.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-23 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, like this guys says. Have you considered neighborhood busybody? Try forming an HOA with your neighbors and appointing yourself as being in charge of neighborhood security and law enforcement relations. Then the cops gotta invite you to stuff at the department building because the local Chief risks getting bad PR if they don't.
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[personal profile] replicantangel 2015-05-23 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Most crimes aren't mysteries though. Either the police know who did it (because of witnesses, forensics, video, etc) or they don't. If there's no information to follow up on, the case will be closed for most stuff like property crime. The murders/bank robberies/assaults often are pretty clear cut too - they just require a lot of paperwork and talking to people. The few that aren't clear cut are mostly paper work and talking to people. Of course there are "aha!" moments, but 9 times out of 10, it's not a surprise. Sometimes, you know who it is but just can't prove it. That's just frustrating.

I think there are a lot of puzzle-solving types of careers and/or careers where you help people out there. If you boil down to what element of TV policing is most enticing, I'm sure you could do it. And that's assuming you really are "too old", which you probably aren't. I've known guys in their 40s to go through the academy and do really well for themselves. And the physical qualifications are not that difficult for your average person in an average municipality. Just know that cold cases getting re-opened, much less solved, is rare, and forensics is nothing like CSI. Although being okay with death/gore is a good point, because the number of dead people you'd see is high. (And they're very often naked.)

But don't let your doubts (or my cynicism) deter you if it's what you really want to do. Agencies need passionate, dedicated and ethical people.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2015-05-23 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair, though, this does depend on your definition of a "mystery". Yeah, most crimes aren't Lewis-type puzzles involving Shakespeare quotes written in blood and Beethoven's 5th symphony, but the "proving the person's guilt" bit can get pretty tricky. You have to identify the incriminating evidence, or find an inconsistency in the witnesses' statements, or a hole in the suspect's alibi - these are all pretty common, even if the identity of the criminal is, in the end, no surprise.

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-24 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Of course reality is not as glamorous or intriguing as what you see on TV. Most of the time you won't even be part of an interesting case. And even if you think you are immune to gore, it's really emotionally exhausting.

I don't know your age, but if you are really interested then you could maybe research it or maybe take some relevant classes where they have guest speakers that have experience in that field and ask them about it.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-24 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I want to be a PI. And I know that in real life, it's mostly doing background checks and sitting outside buildings waiting for someone to cheat on their spouse or commit insurance fraud.

And that's actually fine with me. I'm uniquely suited to, and very experienced at, looking things up, not being noticed, and sitting around waiting for people. I've often thought, with the amount of time I spend waiting for other people, if I was getting paid to waste that time maybe I wouldnt have to eat so much Ramen.

But I looked up the requirements and it's just not that easy to get a PI license. I'd need to be ex military/ex police with at least five years experience OR five years experience working for a licensed PI. Which, how do I go about getting a job like that? There are courses, but how do I know which ones are reputable? Etc.