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What I was going to say. You agree that Whedon is a feminist, but it bothers you that Ruffalo calls him "deeply committed"?

Um. I don't have any big problems with Joss, so it's hard for me wrap my head around. I think he's a action/horror/comedy writer first and a feminist second, and I'm OK with that. You can disagree with details of what he does, but we do that with each other anyway.

A lazy action/horror/comedy writer. He's not really brought anything fresh to the table for years. His last couple of movies have felt more like an 80s hair rockband's "greatest hits" albums than stuff that is bringing anything fresh. You can pretty much spot his tropes, the lazy fake outs, the reversal of a regular trope, the waifish bad ass girl, the banter instead of dialogue, exposition delivered via quipping, the close up on the rolling of eyes, the woobie-misunderstood-bad guys, the comedy gore shot. They feel like they are assembled via a tick chart.

DA

Oh god, "exposition delivered via quipping".

I want to strangle Whedon so bad for that. He's inspired several fanfic and non-fanfic writers to try *way* too hard at witty snappy banter, and when it fails it fails so obviously epically it's embarrassing.

Yeah his biggest problem is snark in place of character development and I hate it. It's not enough that he has to write everything like a comic book, but he writes everything like a 90s comic book because that's what he used to write.

Yes, this so much. I hated Coulson for most of season one of S.H.I.E.L.D. because his only reason for existing seemed to be to deliver Whedon one-liners (I haven't actually seen the Avengers, so I had no reason to come into the series loving the character like people who have seen the Avengers seem to do).

I think Buffy, Angel, and Firefly got it right, with characters who had great lines AND depth. But he hasn't quite managed it for me in anything more recent that he's done.

I think he's a little better than you do. But also, I'm really not sure that's at all relevant if we're talking about his feminism.

This. I'm tired of the waifish badass girl, especially because he lurves this trope so much it feels like a fetish. The banter/quipping is nowhere near as clever as he seems to think and I'm starting to resent friends who quote it to me endlessly as an example of Whedon's genius writing skills.

I haaaaaaate his obsession with brown-haired magical waif. Hate.

I mean, it was full of tropes for the exact purpose of being full of tropes.

I think Whedon thought he was being clever with those tropes, but really it relied on not guessing the twist and it wasn't even a clever or original twist.

But... he OPENED with the twist.

Not much of a twist, to be honest.

Cabin in the Woods suffers from the fact that Whedon thinks merely pointing out that they're using tropes is enough cleverness for one film. No need to move beyond them, and what little subverting of the tropes that takes place is a "twist" you see coming from miles away. Yet people still think it's brilliant, which makes it a pretty standard Whedon project.

God yes.

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Um, wasn't that the whole point of Cabin in the Woods?

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