[ SECRET POST #3065 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #3065 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.


__________________________________________________



02.
[The Witcher 3]


__________________________________________________



03.
[Shakin Stevens]


__________________________________________________



04.
[The Godfather II]


__________________________________________________



05.
[A Redtail's Dream]


__________________________________________________



06.
[David Lynch & David Cronenberg]


__________________________________________________



07.
[Laurell K. Hamilton]


__________________________________________________



08.
[Big Bang Theory]


__________________________________________________



09.
(Richard Dawkins)


__________________________________________________



10.












Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 034 secrets from Secret Submission Post #438.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[sabotabby]

I wouldn't feel guilty. He's an asshole: racist, misogynist, the whole lot. And what I've read of his writings about atheism doesn't impress me. I have a very low opinion of the New Atheists; they seem to be a continuation of European Christian imperialism without the Christianity but hanging onto the evangelical zeal. I'll take a sensible religious person over a New Atheist any day.

Also, I don't think one actually needs to read any books by atheists to be one. Maybe it was because I was more or less raised atheist but it's always been something I've taken for granted, with the burden of proof on people who believe in something beyond observable reality. But I'm an atheist of the most apathetic variety.

[(Anonymous)]

Got any outrageous links to some damning evidence?
I haven't read too much Dawkins, just enough to think he was just an insufferable ass to people who failed to think his way.
Atheist BTW, but sensible enough to be nice about it.

[(Anonymous)]

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/18/richard-dawkins-sexist-atheists-bad-name

TL;DR: dawkins is a creepy, ignorant, victim blaming craplord who rules with an iron fist on shithead mountain.

[(Anonymous)]

Eek. Ugly.
I read his Wikipedia article as well. It says he's still married to Lalla Ward. I kinda feel sorry for her at this point.

[sabotabby]

She can do so much better. Oh, Romana.

[sabotabby]

This one's got a bunch of links:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/18/richard-dawkins-sexist-atheists-bad-name

This is particularly bad for a supposed atheist:
http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/05/richard-dawkins-islam-is-an-unmitigated-evil/

More rape apologetics:
http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/the-atheist-movement-needs-to-disown-richard-dawkins-999

[(Anonymous)]

O.O

WOW.

[sabotabby]

I deeply resent having to—when asked—identify myself as "an atheist but not the Richard Dawkins kind of atheist."

[(Anonymous)]

The third link made me wonder if I need some antacid. "Mild" pedophelia? Not damaging?

Disgusting.

[dethtoll]

I have a very low opinion of the New Atheists; they seem to be a continuation of European Christian imperialism without the Christianity but hanging onto the evangelical zeal. I'll take a sensible religious person over a New Atheist any day.

Annnnd you lost me there. I'll grant that there's a lot of douchey atheists out there but come on, what you're implying (that modern atheism is entirely made up of people like this guy) is offensive and not even remotely true. Please don't lump atheists like me in with atheists like this.

[sabotabby]

That's why I specified New Atheism, which is an organized—and douchey—movement. They call themselves that, not me. I wouldn't call them atheists at all, personally.

[dethtoll]

How is New Atheism douchey? Aside from the behavior and attitudes of individual people who might ascribe to that label, which, admittedly, is unfortunately common with a lot of (primarily male) atheists and skeptics, I don't see the problem with criticism of religion and magical thinking, which is what New Atheism is about.

[(Anonymous)]

...you do get that you're pretty much proving sabotabby's point, yes?

[sabotabby]

Its main spokespeople are white male douchebags.

I have no problem with criticism of religion, but:

1) I do have a problem with evangelicalism, and trying to force one's atheist beliefs on others is just as bad as trying to force one's religious beliefs on others.

2) The criticism is not of all religion equally. Its most scathing criticisms are reserved for Islam, with a cover of "Islam is a religion not a race," which is a cowardly evasion of real-world politics.

3) The supposed majority of the movement has not told Dawkins, Harris, et al. to STFU with the rapey misogyny.

If it's just about critique of religion and magical thinking, old-fashioned small-a, non-new atheism does perfectly well at that.

[caerbannog]

I'm not sure I follow your last line. They're still atheists. Supposedly douchebag dickhead atheists but they are still "non believers"

[sabotabby]

They're non-believers, but they're evangelical about that non-belief, which leads me to believe that they are not as confident about their atheism as they might be. It's like a guy who exclaims loudly and at random that the sun will rise, and you're a fool for not declaring it along with him—makes me wonder if he might have his doubts.

[(Anonymous)]

without the Christianity but hanging onto the evangelical zeal

Yeah, I am an atheist, but I agree with you on that. I don't care if other people have religious beliefs or not (religious politics is a separate matter) and I certainly don't run around calling people stupid for being part of a religion or take out ads to say there's no God. What's the point except self-aggrandisement?

[sabotabby]

It's all about smug superiority. Which I have plenty of, but I try to save it for people who really deserve it.

(frozen comment)

[(Anonymous)]

Are you sure you're not Blitzwing?

(frozen comment)

[sabotabby]

What is Blitzwing?

[(Anonymous)]

>European Christian Imperialism

What the fuck

[(Anonymous)]

Not well phrased, but there's a valid point there, around hegemony and things of that nature

[(Anonymous)]

Word.

He came into the bookshop I worked at last year, and legitimately refused to address me, because I'm female. He very pointedly insisted on only making inquiries to my male (subordinate) coworker.

Total asshole.

[sabotabby]

Wow. I'm not surprised, but wow.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm more or less agnostic, but it sometimes amuses me when people who define themselves as so so smart and enlightened due to their skepticism/atheism take overtly illogical stances.