[ SECRET POST #3066 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3066 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Christopher Walken]


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[Harry Potter/Parvati Patil]


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[The Mummy]


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[tokyo ghoul]


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[Ioan Gruffudd/Alexander Siddig/Dominic Keating/Max Pirkis]











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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, Agony. Such a glorious song

[fingalsanteater]

Yes, lol. If only the movie ended at the wedding scene. But it just had to keep going and ruin everything good about it.

[(Anonymous)]

You have to watch the version of the show with Douglas Sills. Oh, the gloriousness..

[(Anonymous)]

THIS!!!... except... I'd miss the line, "I was raised to be charming, not sincere." Other than that, everything after the wedding was awful. I loved the movie up till then.

[ozaline]

Or it had done the second act of the play justice, it defanged it, imo.

The play wouldn't work with the first act alone though, it'd stop being a deconstruction at that point... But so much was cut down (I think partly cause Disney was afraid of hurting the Princess brand), and weakened that the second act lost it's punch.

[fingalsanteater]

I've never seen the play, but I feel I should because I like the concept, but the second act killed all the positive feelings I had about the first. I almost feel like it couldn't be translated to film at all, because it felt like the second act was a completely different film and was divorced from the first. It was jarring and, while I get it was supposed to be a deconstruction, it felt more like an kind of ass-pull in the film.

And, don't even get me started on the slut-shaminess of the mother character's death... I don't know how that came across in the play, but it pissed me off in the movie. (The woman who played by Anna Kendrick, I believe, who kissed the prince and then died.)

[ozaline]

Well the thing is a lot more characters die in the play than in the movie. It's never been confirmed by the playwrights, but a lot of people read it as being about the AIDS epidemic, and a huge part of it that it's very random who lives who who dies it's not about being deserving of death or undeserving. So while, if you believe the aids allegory idea, the mother probably did die because she had sex with very promiscuous man, she is not alone (no one is alone!). It seemed less a punishment, given everyone else who dies

There's lot of elements that got cut from the movie that help make the two acts feel more cohesive in the play, (for example there is a reprise of that Agony song you liked where the Princes are now eyeing Sleeping Beauty, and Snow White because they've lost interest in their current wives), but the first act being a complete, "play," or "movie," unto itself is kind of the point. When I first saw it staged, I didn't know going in that it was a two act play and was surprised when the narrator blurted out the words, "to be continued," during the "Ever After," song.

TL;DR as someone who adores the play I found the second half of the movie to be quite unbearable, and would recommend checking out DVD of the play (of course if it's being staged near you, that's even better!)

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't watched more than the first 5 minutes of the film, but I think you're referring to the baker's wife (played by Emily Blunt iirc, not Anna Kendrick, who was Cinderella)? So I can't speak to how it's handled in the film, but in the stage play, the baker's wife is my favorite character and her arc is the most ouchie and you shouldn't knock it based on the film.

[Spoilers]

I don't know how it goes in the film, but in the stage play, she doesn't just kiss the prince, she actually sleeps with him (it's heavily implied). And then he leaves her and she has the epiphany that, gee, maybe a grand prince isn't all that it's cracked up to be, and she decides quite happily to go back to her husband and baby and be happy, and then only when she's had this full beautiful moment of realization and her character arc comes full circle, *then* she gets trampled by a giant and dies and it's supposed to be the most unfair moment of the entire play because of all the characters who were good and kind and deserved happiness, it was the baker's wife who was the least shitty human and deserved it the most. It's not so much about slut-shaming as it is about "the grass is always greener" and an unjust universe.

[fingalsanteater]

Oh, see, I love that.

[(Anonymous)]

There are a lot of places to watch the film of the original stage version (with Bernadette Peters as the Witch and Joanna Gleason as the Baker's Wife) online, if you're interested. Some of them totally licit, if that makes a difference. It is literally just a film of the show with no bells and whistles except the occasional face close up.