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⌈ Secret Post #381 ⌋

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28. THANK YOU! I don't like the assumption that everyone who pays WoW is some addicted loser that loses their job and drops out of school, etc. etc. etc. Mind you, I find a lot of people who preach how horrible the game is, have never played it before, or have no interest in MMORPGs.

If someone has no self-control, like you said, yeah, they'll probably get addicted, but for regular people, it's JUST A GAME. It's something to do for fun.

I met a ton of neat real life friends because of WoW, and *shock* most of us are university students or we hold down steady jobs.

34. Aw, Blood Elves and Trolls are cute together. I like orc ladies and elf men, but I'm odd like that.

28. I don't think the secret said that everyone who played WoW was an addicted loser, just that the poster knows a lot of people who have had their lives fall appart.
I avoid it like the plague because I have an addictive personality. I would love to play--it sounds like the sort of thing I used to dream about having when I was younger. But I know myself well enough to know that if I pick up something of that sort (or any game like that), that it will take over my life.

I know the poster, and I know some of the people they're talking about. And we can't bring it up to them, and it's kind of sad to watch. And for my part, I've seen a couple of my own friends completely fail at life because they have to make that next level. I've also met a few people who are responsible, married, holding down a job, and a social life, and still very much enjoy slaying things with their elf mage. It's just for every person I know like that, I know another one who just can't get themselves together because they have to play that game.

But to give the blanket statement of "THIS GAME RUINS LIVES" seems to imply that everyone who plays it is going to turn into an addicted slob. It IS a generalization of WoW players.

I understand that addiction certainly does happen, and it's a horrible thing, but you can't just lump a group of 8 million + people into the same group because of it. .

But to give the blanket statement of "THIS GAME RUINS LIVES" seems to imply that everyone who plays it is going to turn into an addicted slob.

No. No it doesn't. And it's not a generalization. A generalization would be "THIS GAME ALWAYS RUINS LIVES" or "THIS GAME RUINS EVERY LIFE IT TOUCHES." The statement is a simple "THIS GAME RUINS LIVES" which, if you look at many of the comments replying to it, is true. It does not ruin the live of everyone who plays it, but it does ruin lives, and that's the only statement the secret made.

It's not worded in a way that doesn't imply generalizing though. If someone were to post "THIS ANIME RUINS LIVES" or "THIS TV SHOW RUINS LIVES" then there'd probably be people who'd take some level of offense to it. Especially if it's popular.

Yes, they site personal experiences, but the main message is that the game ruins lives.

Video games have been under fire since Pong, and it's become aggravating to the average gamer that every time an individual does something stupid, the entire community takes the fall for it. It used to be Everquest, Tetris, DOOM, Grand Theft Auto and even the Sims. Now it's WoW.

I'm not saying the game doesn't ruin lives, but it's not the game's fault it happens. People need to take more personal responsibly, and if the friends are concerned with their behavior, then maybe there needs to be an intervention. It's not impossible to help someone out of addiction. It's not easy either, but not impossible.

A little more difficult if the person isn't a friend but a superior.

The game does ruin lives. Just like any other addictive substance or action. It's not the game's fault, but the game is the vehicle in this case.

Still, it's worse to do nothing and blame the vice, than it is to offer help the victim. I would hope that if there was concern of someone's well-being there would be an offer of help.

Again, I never said the game didn't ruin lives. I'm only trying to say that, as a gamer, it's annoying to have to deal with the generalization of being lazy addicts, jobless drop-outs or mentally unstable because a handful of individuals don't know the difference between a game and the real world.

That's the point I'm trying to make. The post wasn't a generalization. It was an observation from experience. It was not a generalization.

That's exactly what I'm saying -- if you don't know how to employ moderation, then that's your problem. WoW may make it a little easier than, say, dairy products (you know there's someone out there with an unhealthy addiction/fetish for dairy products) but this applies to everything in life. If you can't control yourself, that's a problem, but WoW doesn't whisper in your ear at night that you should divorce your wife or drop out of school. If you do that, you are the problem.

I played WoW almost every day for months; I was in a raiding guild and never missed a raid. But I also graduated from college magna cum laude as a double major, and I went on to go to graduate school full time while holding down a part-time job, all while playing WoW. I never got in trouble academically, professionally, or socially. And I am not a person who has a lot of will-power! But I know how to, you know, balance my life.

Granted, it helps if your friends aren't shrieking about your addiction whenever you hang out with them. I can see how that might result in some of your relationships failing. :P

I think orc guys are so incredibly cute. XD "Lady, since the first time I saw you, I... honestly did not think I would get this far."

Precisely! It's not the game's fault if you can't control yourself.

I know for a while my spouse was showing signs of getting addicted, but you know what I did? OMG I talked to him! I told him my concerns, but I wasn't freaking out at him about it. Yeah, he got defensive at first, but he understood why I was worried, and now he's way better at moderating his game time. Now we're all happy!

Blaming the game is the easy way out. I bet 20 years ago people were saying the same thing about Mario Bros, and Tetris being addictive. Different time, different scapegoat.

They ARE! Orcs are so unappreciated =(

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