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⌈ Secret Post #3073 ⌋

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[Master Chef]

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[The Raven Cycle by Maggie Stiefvater]

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[Harry Potter]

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[Star Wars]

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[Frank]

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[Discworld]

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[Baccano!]

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[Cher Lloyd/Kingsman: The Secret Service]

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[Eurovision]

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[Hannah Rutherford (Yogscast)]

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I think there's a bunch of different things you're saying in this post, so I have three responses.

- I agree that tropes, in the TV Tropes sense, are entirely worthless.

- I think that tropes, in the more classic sense, are pretty worthwhile for the purposes of literary analysis. It's very useful to be able to think about different topics and concerns and situations that recur and to trace how they change and differ over time, and what they tend to refer to and reference. I don't think they can be used to analyze the creator's intent but I'm not sure who ever said they are.

- I agree with your thoughts on representation, pretty much.

To me, tropes do have some value. It gives the audience that "Ah!" moment. Dramatic irony.

Consider the Ancient Greek theatre. They didn't consider predictability of plot (which is what many tropes are) to be a fault; rather, they saw art in the details of the narrative, the way that a, say, "The bigger they are the harder they fall" situation was executed.

What I mean by the TV Tropes understanding of tropes is the idea that a trope is just a big list of shit that happens in different works

I agree that tropes in the way you're using them are valuable

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