[ SECRET POST #3074 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3074 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I only have a peripheral concept of sad puppies. Can someone explain why they don't like him? I thought they were all for white males dominating the sci-fi world?

[(Anonymous)]

Only if they're the right kind of white male. Scalzi is not particularly macho and doesn't care about being "alpha", he's not into hating on gays and POCs, and he's a feminist. All major strikes against him by any Puppy standard. What's more, Vox Day (head of the Rabid Puppies) has had a major hateboner for him for years.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, thank you. I may have to check out his stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

Puppies are (for all intents and purposes) a right-wing movement, aesthetically and politically. Scalzi is left-wing, aesthetically and politically, and one of the more prominent voices on that whole side of things.

[(Anonymous)]

Probably important to note that Scalzi doesn't consider himself particularly left wing. Left of center, maybe, on social issues. Less so on financial issues.

[(Anonymous)]

In this context (which is distinctly distinct from, for instance, US national politics), looking at the issue as those involved see it, and certainly as the Puppies themselves would define it, he's absolutely on the left wing.

Not in a radical or extreme way, but that's where he is.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, I'm sure the Puppies view him as practically being a socialist, but it's still important to note that how they view him doesn't necessarily match with reality. Not to mention that there's a significant difference between saying "Scalzi is left-wing" and "the Puppies view Scalzi as left-wing". In the former, it sounds like it's coming from the anon commenting, and not the anon's explanation for how Scalzi is viewed by others.

[(Anonymous)]

That's fair. But I think there's also a sense in which he is actually left-wing: in the specific context of science fiction fandom. That's the point that I really want to get across here. Science fiction fandom has its own political dynamics, and in that context, he's left wing, even if he's not in a broader political sense.

So, politically, he's maybe centrist or whatever, although viewed by the Puppies as a cultural Marxist or something I'm sure. But, fandom-wise, he's in the center-left part of fandom.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

1. He doesn't kiss antifeminist ass.
2. He was SFWA president when the motion to expel Vox Day got rolling.
2. He changed the editorial board for the SFWA magazine to be accountable to the president of the organization after the magazine ran a number of antifeminist articles.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, of course, that's why they had a bunch of women and POC on their Hugo slate and why a woman is taking over the reins next year.