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What's the Christian equivalent to ISIS?

The United States of AmeriKKKa

(My edge is like the blade of a samurai sword)

There most emphatically isn't one.

Whatever the Bosnian Serbs who slaughtered all those Croats and "Turks" in Bosnia called themselves.

Or, if you like, the Croat militants in the same conflict.

Or, if you go back before the Peace of Westfalen, pretty much John Calvin's entire "Reformed Church" movement. They burned Christians of the "wrong" sect at the stake as "witches." Those guys.

Or, before that, maybe the Pope who tried to exterminate the Cathars?

Or, you know, the freaking Crusaders, from the bunch who entered Jerusalem and killed every non-Christian to the nitwits who sacked Constantinople to profit the Doge.

Or, how about the Greek Patriarch who decided he could push the Emperor around and use the power of the Roman state to rob pagans.

The Crusaders (or the early Protestants) are most like, the Serbs are most recent.

DA, but I really hate how people use examples from hundreds of years ago to go "see? Christians committed atrocities too so they are just as bad!" Society has evolved. This is 2015. The Crusades aren't something that happened 20 years ago. Regardless of what happened in the past, people today
(regardless of religion) are entitled to call out bullshit when they see it. If people are being beheaded and stoning women in the name of religion in the 21st century, there is a huge fucking problem. There is no modern Christian organization that comes even close to what ISIS is doing. At all.

So, you agree that there have been Christian equivalents to Daesh.

Yes, and?

Well, if the existence of Daesh speaks to some kind of fundamental truth about Islam as a religion, it's absolutely valid to bring up shit from the Crusades.

If all you want to say is that Daesh is bad, then yeah, absolutely. But that's not at all the point that people arguing against when they bring up the Crusades.

Yeah it shows that Christianity has evolved with some modicum of progress while Islam is still stuck in the medieval ages.

Maybe there's a difference in the level of development in the countries concerned due to the West fucking them over for the last 200 years. But no, it's not 'medieval'. It's just a different context of now. Saying that ISIS are the same as what happened 600 years ago is just another way of saying ISIS exists because Muslims are fundamentally backward.

Are you talking about this thread specifically, or in general?

In general.

Like, now. If you have to go back hundreds of years to find Christians acting like Muslims are today then you're kind of proving their point.

1991 was not hundreds of years ago.

The closest thing that comes to mind is the missionaries in Uganda: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/how-uganda-was-seduced-by-antigay-conservative-evangelicals-9193593.html

Look up "militas" and the history of domestic terrorism in the U.S. You ever noticed that since 9/11, this country likes to pretend there is no such thing as terrorism committed by white Americans upon other white Americans? All of a sudden, the only terrorists are brown people, usually Muslims.

Pro-Life extremists. They've bombed clinics and even killed doctors.

How many people do they kill daily?

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