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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-06-09 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #3079 ]


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Re: For men who wish to be considered feminists

(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Jesus, people do not like this.

FWIW, I can see where you're coming from. Accusations are difficult to be heard at the best of times, where as voices calling women lying bitches are so terrifyingly frequent that you really don't want to add to it.

Re: For men who wish to be considered feminists

(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, word?
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Re: For men who wish to be considered feminists

[personal profile] dethtoll 2015-06-10 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
This is like the 2nd or 3rd time I've seen this comment and it's always funny.

Re: For men who wish to be considered feminists

(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you. You put it much better than I did.

Re: For men who wish to be considered feminists

(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, Lord. If we're expected to take this seriously: you can deny an accusation without also calling the accuser a lying bitch. This is, in fact, possible.

And if you really expect anyone to take the rap for something like this when they know they're innocent, you're... ridiculous, and expecting something inhumane and unjust. I mean, for God's sake.

Re: For men who wish to be considered feminists

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
There are three things an accused man can publicly say:

1. I did it (She's telling the truth)
2. I didn't do it (She's Lying)
3. I have nothing to say about this until it goes to court.

No-one says 1. Every rapist, rape apologise, police office, and defence attorney says 2 to the point real victims can not ever be heard. a feminist should not add to this chorus. 3 is the only moral statement an innocent man can make.

Re: For men who wish to be considered feminists

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
the truth is always a moral statement

Re: For men who wish to be considered feminists

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
No. a truth used to hurt is not moral.

Re: For men who wish to be considered feminists

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt, but I am constantly amused at the copious amounts of not-logic that is spouted all over the internets. Thanks for this bit of silliness to add to the archive.

Re: For men who wish to be considered feminists

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
But a lie used to hurt is A-OK if it's a woman falsely accusing a man, apparently.
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Re: For men who wish to be considered feminists

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-06-10 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
lol what.

Re: For men who wish to be considered feminists

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
3 is pretty much saying "I did it" though. Innocent people have nothing to hide, so it's basic reasoning to everyone that if you admit nothing either way, it means you're too cowardly to own up to your guilt.

Re: For men who wish to be considered feminists

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
No, 2 means "I didn't do it". Some people may interpret it as "she's lying", but that's their own failing.

Re: For men who wish to be considered feminists

(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
You're right, women know how rare it is for anyone to believe them. That's why no women ever dare to lie, and anyone who accuses a woman of lying is the real liar.

Re: For men who wish to be considered feminists

(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm reading this in a sarcastic tone, but the words don't seem sarcastic. The words make sense. Could you explain? Thanks.

Re: For men who wish to be considered feminists

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
This means you understand vocabulary. All of the words are in fact words. The syntax and the sentiment? That's another story.

Re: For men who wish to be considered feminists

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Well, most of the time they are. False accusations of rape, sexual assault, sexual harrassment, etc. are in the low 2% range.

That doesn't mean the accused is guilty the rest of the time, but deliberate false reports are incredibly rare, so most of the people who claim them are either wrong and attributing malice where they shouldn't, or are flat out lying themselves.

Re: For men who wish to be considered feminists

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
No. Rape accusations that go to court and turn out to be false are in the 2 % range. This does not even remotely include all the false accusations that are proven as false before ever going to court.