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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-06-09 06:46 pm

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For men who wish to be considered feminists

(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
If you are legitimately a feminist, and a woman accuses you of something horrible, and you really want everyone to believe you didn't do it, then fist you need to stop, and look at the situation, and ask yourself: How will me refuting these claims help women?

Will publicly stating that you are innocent do anything good? Or will it mean you are publicly calling the woman a liar, and making it infinity harder for other victims to be able to come forward?

If a woman accuses you, and you believe the accusation to be false and you consider yourself a feminist, prove it. Keep your moth shut, let it go to court and let the 'truth' come out naturally.

Just a little message for an ex-friend of mine.

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh fuck you. "HEY! If you want to be a feminist just let a woman say ANYTHING about you without refuting it. And if you want to refute it? GO TO FUCKING COURT! That is the only way to refute a woman."

I hope that is an ex-friend because you figured out she was a fucking moron.

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Shut the fuck up.

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Nobody feed this obvious troll. Please, absent this comment, let this thread go unanswered and disappear from our minds. Don't give it any credence.

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
There once was a radfem troll
That on fandomsecrets did roll
But no one replied
Til that troll up and died
Good riddance -- don't come back for more!

(The above should be read in the style of a limerick).

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Why not respond? Like, they are not going to go away. And at least it is something intereting to talk about. plus, it reminds me why I hate people (for when FB let's me forget).

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you. You put it much better than I did.

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[personal profile] iceyred 2015-06-09 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I appreciate this thread if only because it inspired that limerick. Good job, Limerick-Anon.

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 06:22 am (UTC)(link)
That was hilarious! Thanks!


(I needed some cheering up tonight.)

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Jesus, people do not like this.

FWIW, I can see where you're coming from. Accusations are difficult to be heard at the best of times, where as voices calling women lying bitches are so terrifyingly frequent that you really don't want to add to it.

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you back away from them slowly while shaking your head?

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You're mad because your ex-friend called you a liar after you lied about him?
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2015-06-09 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi, Patricia Hernandez.

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I am glad your ex-friend can get away from your craziness. :)

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I am a woman. This anon raped me. ANON YOU RAPED ME AND YOU CANNOT ARGUE AGAINST THIS.

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, what bullshit. It does not do women any favors to let someone get away with untrue smears. "Prove it in court"? Why the hell should a guy take months of getting his reputation ripped into and just sit there and take it?

Would you?

Nope.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
If anyone accuses you of something you didn’t do, you might have an obligation to refute it.

Why?

Because if they are mistaken, the actual perpetrators might get caught that much quicker. If they are doing it for attention or because they are scared, then they might need help. If they are doing it out of malice, then that’s wrong and they should be stopped.

Of course, refuting it is different from name-calling or issuing counter-accusations.

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[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-06-10 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, because courts are never wrong and no wrongful conviction is ever made.

Also don't worry about your reputation at all, even if the slander is absolutely detestable like an accusation of rape or pedophilia.

Nah, sorry, everyone has the right to defend themselves- feminist or no.

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
God, OP, I totally agree. That is why I thought it was SO fucking stupid when people were saying that Eric Garner was innocent. I mean, come on. How is refuting those claims helpful towards justice? If those people really considered themselves good people, they would just shut up.

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Re: the word "feminist": when I see posts like yours, I think, with friends like you, who needs enemies?
intrigueing: (yoda's epic shit)

Wait...

[personal profile] intrigueing 2015-06-10 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
...Isn't this post kind of a rip-off of the plot of the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode "Duet"?

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
If you are legitimately a feminist

What if you're an illegitimate feminist? What do you do then? Help, I need to know!!

Love child, never meant to be
Love child, born in poverty :(
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That was a really lame troll, but on this topic:

[personal profile] chardmonster 2015-06-10 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Men who wish to be considered feminists have to actually walk the walk, not just say they're feminists and act like this makes their every action okay.

In my personal experience guys who claim to be feminist--that is, vocally telling you so--are the least likely to actually give a damn about the implications of feminism. What they ARE going to do is latch onto things like sex positivity as an excuse to act shitty.

Also see: "not my shield," and dudes using "I'm a feminist' as a means to police femininity.

So if you're actually a feminist, how about, I don't know, not treating women like shit? You don't need to go around yelling about how feminist you are to be a feminist. If you feel women need to know you're a feminist in order to believe you respect them, then maybe there's something fucked up about you that would lead them to think otherwise. Work on that.
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Re: For men who wish to be considered feminists

(Anonymous) 2015-06-10 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
Why the hell you don't ask female on joining MRA instead?

Oh wait. Why don't. They fucking second class.
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Re: For men who wish to be considered feminists

[personal profile] caerbannog 2015-06-10 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
No.