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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-06-20 03:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #3090 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3090 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-06-20 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm going to be real and say I have no idea what this secret is about (something?? japanese?? i guess?) but I do take issue with you saying that most not straight people are heteronormaitve.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-20 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
no, I was saying the sum of (straight people+heteronormative queer people) make up the majority

not that a majority of queer people are heteronormative

so like, if you're a straight girl you're prob gonna find the girl playing a man hotter than the girl playing a woman

(Anonymous) 2015-06-20 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
What's a heteronormative queer person?

(Anonymous) 2015-06-20 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2015-06-20 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
a queer person that buys into a world view that promotes heterosexuality as the normal or preferred sexual orientation?

I hope you're not saying zero queer people do this because I have some bad news for you if you are

(Anonymous) 2015-06-20 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
So like one that refuses to have same gender relationships despite having same gender attraction or something?

(Anonymous) 2015-06-20 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
you know how people call yaoi heteronormative because one guy is "the man" and the other guy is "the woman"? it doesn't have to be straight people to promote idealizing straight relationships or gender roles

(Anonymous) 2015-06-20 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Examples?

(Anonymous) 2015-06-20 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
uh like every single insecure bisexual dude who will sleep with men but bottoming is for fags?

are you honestly saying you have never run into the idea of a heteronormative queer person

(Anonymous) 2015-06-21 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
you know how yaoi is written by straight women so your point about a male/female dynamic being promoted by queer people kinda fails?

(Anonymous) 2015-06-21 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
you say that like it isn't consumed in large quantities by queer people regardless of who it's created by

are you saying queer people who are yaoi fans don't count for anything because it was made by straight people??? i don't understand what your point is or what you are trying to do besides broadly erase queer fandoms of things straight people make

(Anonymous) 2015-06-21 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I mean, I'm just pretty uncomfortable with the implication that ~queer people~ play a significant role in upholding heteronormativity, and with the idea that you're "promoting heterosexuality" if you're in a gay relationship where one of you is perceived as the man and the other as the woman.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-21 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
like i said not all queer people but the heteronormative ones

i did not say the majority were heteronormative or that they were a significant portion of queer people or that it was a good thing it happens but you can't keep saying they do not exist like these anons do

promotion heterocentric norms, not sexuality

(Anonymous) 2015-06-21 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
So you do think that ~heteronormative queers~ play a significant role in upholding heternormativity.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-21 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
no, but i think they exist at all, unlike the anons above

(Anonymous) 2015-06-21 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
That's quite the assumption.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-21 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
not for me. if i never had to run into another man who thought getting their dick sucked by a man is a-ok but sucking another man's dick is gay and makes them a pussy again, i'd be happy tbh. i dont know what cultures you come from but i'd honestly love to live where all of you live.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-21 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
That's quite the assumption about what my comment meant.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-21 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
you're anon, i don't know which comments are yours. unless they're all yours??

someone literally asked what a heteronormative queer person was and what an example was, i don't think assuming they were implying they don't really exist was farfetched

(Anonymous) 2015-06-22 10:12 am (UTC)(link)
you seem to be mixing up internalized homophobia/misogyny with heteronormativity.

a gay guy who refuses to bottom because it makes him girlier/gayer/lesser has internalized homophobia.