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Am I the only one who's noticed no one on FB is talking about Charleston?

I'm in Baltimore, and when the "riots" (YMMV as to whether that term is accurate) occurred, all anyone did was talk about racism and privilege. But none of those same people have mentioned one thing about the shooting in Charleston. It surprises me, and bothers me a bit too.

I don't have the same Facebook friends as you, actually

It has been in the trending news stories for like 4 days.

Also, it isn't as exciting to talk about because there is no super controversy. We know who did it. We know why. He has been caught. South Carolina isn't rioting.

There's still a lot to talk about

I don't have Faceborg, but from what I've heard, you probably are not in the social circles if you haven't heard anything on Charleston about it.

Part of it, I imagine, is that this occurred not through an institution (the police) but one fuckhead.

And there's really no way to prevent it.

There are always racist assholes. We can't block their access to guns (I want to, but Newton basically proved to me that it's fucking futile).

And, in this case, the police caught him quickly and the governor says he should get the death penalty.

Everyone agrees it was a hate crime.

And everyone on the left that I know agrees it was terrorism.

So there's less to talk about.

It wasn't terrorism. It was a hate crime and fucking awful. But terrorism has political motives (ie Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist).

And he told the police he wanted to start a race war. How is that not a definition of terrorism?

No. That isn't political. He wasn't doing that so that the police would start killing people. Or to say that the government should legalize killing black people.

That would make Charles Manson a terrorist. He isn't. He is just a crazy fucker who hates some group or another.

He... what?

He did it because he believed that black people were a threat to white people, and he wanted to kill them, and he wanted to inspire other white people to an awareness of those things which he saw as facts and which we know to be delusions.

It was absolutely a political motive.

This.

The Charles Manson analogy above anon uses doesn't work because, Charles Manson never really had an ideology besides causing chaos.

Re: Charleston and Facebook

(Anonymous) - 2015-06-22 04:12 (UTC) - Expand

Re: Charleston and Facebook

(Anonymous) - 2015-06-22 05:08 (UTC) - Expand

I don't have any strong feelings on whether or not it was terrorism. But it certainly had political, ideological motives.

He said, "You're raping our women and you have to go."

I'm not saying that it's white women's fault (noooooo) but he clearly had a political motive (as stupid as it was --and he wanted to start a race war). And he clearly wanted to terrify black people.

It's terrorism.

No. By definition it is not. What political group was he hoping working with against?

Woops, I meant "was he hoping to work with or against"?

He was hoping to work with extreme right-wing racist and nationalist parties (and with unorganized people sharing those views), against what he saw as the broad union of liberal, progressive, anti-racist, and minority groups and political forces.

terrorism: the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

The fuckhead's political aims were to intimidate black people, force them leave, and start a race war.

Stupid as fuck, but they don't have to be complex.

And given the flags he displayed of white supremacist states...

He is as much a terrorist as the Boston bombers.