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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-01-29 06:50 am

[ SECRET POST #389 ]


⌈ Secret Post #389 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 09 pages, 222 secrets from Secret Submission Post #056.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 ] broken link, [ 1 2 3 4 ] not!secret, [ 1 ] too big, [ 1 2 (yes, twice) ] repeat.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Wednesday, January 30th, 2008.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: 15

[identity profile] angelberries.livejournal.com 2008-01-31 11:46 am (UTC)(link)
Oh grow up. We never target the innocent, only people who deserve it. If you really believe all you just wrote, then your perception of us is *really* fucked up, and obviously have not read a word any of us have typed. Typing anonymously is completely and utterly ball-less - and if you have that much of a problem with someone, why can't you just say it to their face? If you believe that you are completely and utterly correct, then you'll have no problem coming and joining us in a slanging match.... will you?

Back to the pony, whoever posted the picture is an extemely sheltered individual, and they really need to get out more.... or just get laid. seriously. At the end of the day, you are only really helping Teal along with her pony sales, as shes getting more attention on her customs for this, and more sales because of it. The eggs on your face, baby!

Re: 15

(Anonymous) 2008-01-31 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes I'm sure the innocent people whose appearance and wedding album you trashed wholly agree that you only target those who "deserve it." The problem with you Catfight cronies is that you jump to conclusions with nothing to back it up and sometimes you're wrong. Having been accused in the past of being this or that "bitch" or "cunt" who I am not, I can vouch for this as can the lawyer whose online wedding album and photos you assaulted--poor woman! Maybe if you assembled the evidence and verified facts before hurling out your vitriolic and venomous accusations, these mistakes wouldn't happen. For example, this picture was apparently posted by Snap. Do any of you have proof of that? Um, no, just a hunch, but let's go ahead and call her a bunch of nasty names just in case. Or accuse her of having oral sex with her brother, because that's just so clever. The pony looks stupid. The Venus of Willendorf does not. Deal with it. And if you were here, I really would say that to your face. I don't type anonymously because I'm afraid of you. I type anonymously because I don't want to spend an inordinate amount of time beating off the pack of harpies you fly on your broomstick with.

Re: 15

(Anonymous) 2008-01-31 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
...I'm not sure about the rest of the commentary, but I think you completely failed to get the point of the picture. The person who submitted the secret was not implying that the pony looked stupid; they were clearly implying that it was scandalously lewd, and thus the creator was "fucked up" because they made something sexual out of a child's toy. (As an aside, obviously the submitter didn't understand the idea behind the custom or they don't know what the Venus of Willendorf is.)

Re: 15

(Anonymous) 2008-01-31 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't agree they were only implying it was scandalously lewd. The M&M remark suggests they were implying it was also absurdly stupid, with which I concur. I have no clue who created the pony montage, but the comment about artistes implies that they are attacking the absurdity of dressing up my little ponies that way and then trying to pass them off as art or referring to yourself as an artist. That's what I got from the text accompanying the picture. I agree they likely didn't recognize the attempt to mimic the Venus of Willendorf on a plastic pony's ass but the purple Venus only bolsters the other point. Anyone who thinks that's art or demonstrates talent doesn't know much about art.

Re: 15

(Anonymous) 2008-01-31 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, I see your point about commentary of the secret being not only on the nature of the customs but also quality and the viewpoint of the customizers. Some people really like that pony. Some do not. I'm ambivalent about it. The colors of the pony are interesting but the Venus seems out of place to me. *shrugs* Is it art? Well, I don't know about that either; I'm no judge of art. There's plenty of modern art pieces that I feel don't deserve the name. Would I call it art? No.

Re: 15

(Anonymous) 2008-02-01 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
It might be useful for people to know that the pony was made for someone specific. Someone who happens to be a big collector of that particular subject. Art is not subjective to the viewer. Sorry. What you like and dislike may be subjective, but art doesn't work that way. If I like one painting, but hate another, does that mean the one I dislike isn't art? No.

Re: 15

(Anonymous) 2008-02-01 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Great. I have some wadded up kleenex on my desk. Let me call it art and I'll frame it and send it to you.

Sorry but there is meaning behind art and sticking a representation of a famous piece of artwork with purple M&Ms to a plastic pony's ass doesn't cut it no matter who you made it for. Every work of art is an expression but not every expression is a work of art. You combined those things not because you found a personal inherent connection between the toy and the Venus but because you had a friend who collected fertility art (?) and you like ponies. Is there another connection? Doesn't sound like it. I mean when you made it what did the plastic pony suggest about fertility that inspired you to link these things together? Oh wait I forgot. You just stuck it there because you make custom ponies and your friend collects fertility objects. Not because you were inspired by any connection between the two objects. Why is it artistic to stick a representation of the Venus on the pony's ass? Why purple other than to match the pony? You know some people insist that Andy Warhol's reproduction of Campbells soup cans isn't really art and truly it's more artistic than what we see here.

You remind me of teenagers who spill their guts on paper and call it poetry.

Re: 15

(Anonymous) 2008-02-01 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
You remind me of bitter dried up crabs with sand in their vagina. And?

Sorry, but you're not the authority on what art is. No matter how much you try to justify it, you just sound like someone who doesn't like the particular "poem" ragging on it and using your own twisted logic to make your moronic point. Usually, it's the people that suck at the craft, that are it's biggest critics. People who write shitty poetry and can't understand why no one likes it, and then attacks everyone else's styles because they think that will make them more relevant.

Thanks for playing, though.

Re: 15

(Anonymous) 2008-02-01 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
No usually it's the people who have never bothered to study poetry or literature who argue that they know what art is, which I'm guessing would be someone a lot like you. Maybe you haven't known many literary critics, because good critics tend to come from among the ranks of the best writers. People who write emotional drivel that they mislabel poetry are the ones who get hyperdefensive about their work. "HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT ABOUT MY FEELINGS? THESE ARE MY FEELINGS!!!! POETRY CAN'T BE BAD!" I think they grow up to write Hallmark cards.

I know enough about art to know for a fact that not everything someone calls art actually is art. Now we could debate this if you are truly one of those who believes that if you make something and call it art then it's art, but that's likely just going to waste my time because it's pretty clear you don't know much of anything except how to pretend you do.

Here's a link to get you started.

http://www.csulb.edu/~jvancamp/361r14.html

Re: 15

(Anonymous) 2008-02-01 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
You're a joke. I can't believe you take yourself so seriously.

Re: 15

(Anonymous) 2008-02-01 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
What's even funnier to me is all this art debate on a forum dedicate to Anime 'ART' talk about hilarity. But I respect your right to defend Anime as an artform. Boobs, violence and all.

Re: 15

(Anonymous) 2008-02-01 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, I was aware it was made for someone specific, and as I stated in my post, I don't know anything about art, so the only way I know to look at it is subjectively. I don't base it on what I like or dislike, though. I don't like, for instance, Bosch, but I think his work is art all the same. However, in the modern art part of the local museum, I remember seeing a painting that was a red background with a horizontal orange stripe. I don't remember who painted it, but I do remember thinking, "That isn't art." That's the same kind of reaction I have to most custom ponies, but it's just an opinion, not an actual judgement based on any sort of knowledge.

Re: 15

[identity profile] tealslippers.livejournal.com 2008-02-01 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
I don't understand why you're attacking me a year later. Seriously. If you don't like the pony, fine. Why are you still yapping about it a year later?

Re: 15

(Anonymous) 2008-02-02 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
i think you should go cry moar in the Arena or the CF, your attention whoring will get you further there. :)

-anon-who-isn't-the-previous-Anon-although-ilu-anon-anyway

Re: 15

[identity profile] tealslippers.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmmm... couldn't answer a legitimate question. Interesting.

Re: 15

[identity profile] angelberries.livejournal.com 2008-01-31 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
*I* trashed nothing. Don't talk to me about that, for it doesn't apply.

If Snap did not post this,then someone is obviously trying to post it to frame her, simple as. No-one else in the community had such a kneejerk reaction to that particular pony - so why was it picked to feature in this picture? Because of its history. Of course, you and your vendetta you have doesn't make you conscience clear either.

And as for your other comment, no Arena moderator 'bashing the very people she moderates' The only bashing I see are of well known trolls and troublemakers - as far as I see it, ALL of the Arena mods are very careful not to bash anyone.

But anyway...... this is just going around in circles with you. Grow up.

Re: 15

(Anonymous) 2008-01-31 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
yay more name calling. your eballs/elabia feel bigger now? good. omg, yes! that poor wedding couple who was -actually- innocent. in their pursuit to prosecute, convict and sentence to death because the cf 'pony justice squad'(what a joke, now they believe they are actually police detectives lulz) felt so sure that it was "the" person they were stalking. I still feel so horrible for that, yes innocent, couple! may karma come back tenfold. and lets not forget the one lady with a family of 3 who "deserved" to have this past christmas holiday memories ruined with the cf horde stalking her infos having the animal police show up at her door to take away her pets only to find that no harm was being done? eeeyah, people who "deserve it". and stop asking us to post in our real IDs, sheesh. you want to send pizzas/cops/a truck load of manure/swat team/a cut up pony filled with shit(oh thats right, that was done already) to our homes? wtf? we have enough weirdos to contend with irl, we dont need the cf stalkers added to it. seeing as you haphazardly mix innocent people up in your shit stirring fest.

back to the pony, yea get all bent out of shape about it because we all know that you bash other customs that you dont like and this is just ok.

Re: 15

[identity profile] angelberries.livejournal.com 2008-01-31 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't see where I've called you a name? And the guinea pig person - I didn't get involved with, because I have guinea pigs of my own (if you actually read the thread, I stated a couple of times that the set up was an acceptable one for a breeder of her type) so yeah - you are trying to get to me with two instances I wasn't involved in on bashing.

Re: 15

(Anonymous) 2008-01-31 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Awwwe, somebody has sand in their panties. I bet the veins in your forehead were just ablaze posting that. Not everyone at the Catfights talks about everyone. Not all the people at Catfights were involved in either of the things you mentioned.

You're just generalizing the whole lot because you hate a couple people there. I'm guessing you're one of those people who is to chicken to stand up for them self, but instead takes a stab at the Catfights and the people you hate under the radar, and passive aggressively. You just hate the Catfights because the people there say what they think, unlike you, who has to tip toe around it. You only wish you had the guts.

Re: 15

(Anonymous) 2008-01-31 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
And yet, you're spending time. That's pretty funny.

The person that linked that wedding album apologized, and many of the Catfighters were very disappointed in those that posted in that wedding album. Even if it had been the right one, it wasn't right to bring her family into it. People were spanked for it.

Re: 15

(Anonymous) 2008-01-31 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
And what do you think you're doing? You're taking the time to keep reading and replying.

Re: 15

(Anonymous) 2008-02-01 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Did I make a giant display about how much it was the pain in the arse to reply and rant?


No.