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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-07-19 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #3119 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3119 ⌋

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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-07-19 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I hated this show. And the ending just makes it worse for me. He was the stereotypical "nice guy" who couldn't take no for an answer with the added bonus of being really, really irritating.

Sorry OP. But I'm guessing that you didn't keep pushing after your crush told you no or insisting that they actually loved you. Steve was a creep.
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[personal profile] morieris 2015-07-19 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

I'll watch episodes that aren't about Laura being hounded or harassed by Steve.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-19 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
+2

Hounding someone until they give in and date you isn't "adoration and loyalty."

(Anonymous) 2015-07-19 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep this is what bothers me about the pairing as well, it's not that I don't appreciate someone going for the person who has a charming personality over looks but that was NOT how the show felt. It felt like Steve harassed Laura into loving him.

I mean the show had to come up with "cool Steve" for Laura to even consider Steve at all, I feel like when it's the person you're going to marry, you're going to like them for who they are and don't need to be taught to like them for who they are.

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-07-19 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
aw man. I was hoping it wasn't a situation like this when I read the secret. :(

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[personal profile] iceyred 2015-07-19 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a great run down of why that character was so teeth-gratingly obnoxious. I've had to deal with guys like that before and it's not cute, loyal, or anything other than creepy and annoying. >:(

(Anonymous) 2015-07-19 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I vaguely remember a photo set from an episode where Steve is asking about ways to "help convince" a girl to give in to him or something and someone told him "no that's rape".

Is it just my imagination...or what? I didn't find anything about it under the TV Tropes page for Very Special Episodes , which I figured it would be from.

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(Anonymous) 2015-07-19 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
+3 I hated Urkel and I hated that he kept bugging Laura to love him and that eventually she gave in.

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[personal profile] houtarouh 2015-07-20 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
He was the stereotypical "nice guy" who couldn't take no for an answer with the added bonus of being really, really irritating.

One of my problems with Screech from "Saved by the Bell" - he just wouldn't leave Lisa alone. Urkel is no different.

I can't think of anyone from the 80s-90s in TV shows that are like that, other than those two.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-19 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I dont know about the show, but congratulations OP! I am glad things worked out for you. And never mind your family. Don't you feel embarrassed. You do you! I hope you have a long and happy relationship with your significant other. :)

(Anonymous) 2015-07-19 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I can kind of relate to this but with a different pairing. I watched Cardcaptors (the heavily edited American cut) and felt sad for years that Sakura and Syaoran could never be a romantic relationship since it was a kid's show. Flash forward to me finding the manga and the the full uncut anime. The joy was so immense it took me off-guard.

(And the best part is, the day I first discovered the manga in Borders, I had just tried on a sample of the brand new fragrance [at the time] "Light Blue" by Dolce and Gabbana. TO THIS DAY I keep a small atomizer of the perfume because my olfactory-linked memory of this is so strong. All I have to do is open the manga to the page where Sakura and Syaoran first hugged, take a whiff of that perfume and get so happy all over again. I don't think I'll ever be able to repeat that kind of feeling again.)
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2015-07-19 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
(And the best part is, the day I first discovered the manga in Borders, I had just tried on a sample of the brand new fragrance [at the time] "Light Blue" by Dolce and Gabbana. TO THIS DAY I keep a small atomizer of the perfume because my olfactory-linked memory of this is so strong. All I have to do is open the manga to the page where Sakura and Syaoran first hugged, take a whiff of that perfume and get so happy all over again. I don't think I'll ever be able to repeat that kind of feeling again.)

(Anonymous) 2015-07-20 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
that's fucking weird and creepy

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(Anonymous) 2015-07-20 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
There's a song I was listening to while reading chapter spoilers, so that every time I see the character in art or wherever, I hear the song in my head.

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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2015-07-20 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
All that paranthesis shit you got going there oh lol.

Now this is the kind of stuff I love in a secret. Why didn't you make that a secret for all to see!?

(Anonymous) 2015-07-19 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I wasn't a fan of the show and like someone upthread thought the pairing was a bit creepy.

However, I think your general sentiment is really sweet. I'm happy things worked out for you!
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-07-19 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Ten years is a long damn time for unrequited.

Once I had a crush on someone for two years. We wound up dating. (Caveat: I never told him about my feelings until the day we got together, nor did he to me, so it wasn't a case of one of us pushing the other.) I just waited patiently and if we hadn't gotten together, then we'd have either had to move away from each other or something would have had to have happened for me to stop liking him.

Looking back on that (I was a teen then, mid-20s now) I don't know how I did it and if I could ever do that again. Anymore if I like someone, it'll get to the point where I'll try to find out if he's interested fairly quickly and if not, move on. It's just not worth it xD;

(Anonymous) 2015-07-19 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's just too long to wait for someone who may never be available/interested. Of course, maybe OP was dating other people in the meantime and wasn't really waiting...

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(Anonymous) 2015-07-19 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
They got married? Jeeze, that's depressing.
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Good luck with that tactic, pal.

[personal profile] chardmonster 2015-07-19 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe if you cling to her--I mean express adoration and loyalty!--long enough she'll want to fuck you. Maybe. Probably not. If she does it's because she's exhausted her better options. Congrats!

(Anonymous) 2015-07-20 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
if you give a girl loyalty and adoration, you're entitled to her affections!

peak nice guy, right here

(Anonymous) 2015-07-20 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
This show was the bane of my existence in the 6th grade.

My name is Laura and every boy in class just had to imitate Steve to me at least once a day.

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(Anonymous) 2015-07-20 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, OP. Steve was clearly played for laughs but I never found it funny or endearing. It's not about him being a huge dork, it's the fact that he doesn't take no for an answer. I hate it when people do that, whether it's in romance or a platonic relationship. Hollywood loves this trope where the geek guy keeps harassing some poor girl who never asked for his attention until his persistence (and willingness to cross a lot of social boundaries) "wins" him her love, like she's some sort of trophy that gets awarded to Nice Guys (TM) who don't give up and move the hell on like a well adjusted human being would.

I'm glad your 10+ unrequited love ended well for you, but to be honest, that is far too long to wait without either 1) using your words and asking someone out or 2) realizing that mooning over someone who shows no interest in you is a bad life plan.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-20 09:59 am (UTC)(link)
Judging from the uptight response you got, fandomsecrets has officially become tumblr 2 where everything is problematic and you can't ship Belle and the beast because it's stockholm's syndrome and Cinderella is not feminist and Pocahontas is pro pedophilia and Ariel and Eric are doomed. Really guys, this show was comedy and not super realistic or about role models. His character was comic relief and both were stereotypes. If you want to see problematic messages, then what about her loving him only when he was cool Steve and not when he was his awkward self not experienced with women? At one point she kind of forced him to change himself into cool Steve when she discovered how he did that and from what I remember he himself realized how wrong it was that she didn't really love him the way he was. That said, I never took the story so seriously because the context is a comedy where everything is crazy and exasperated. I don't think that OP was the creepy real life version of Steve, they probably knew he was a caricature abd the exasperated comic relief version of someone with unrequited love.

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