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(Anonymous) 2015-07-25 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)"Japanese people are mostly really racist" is such a racist statement in and of itself that I'm still laughing.
Imagine someone saying "black people are mostly really racist, so they're probably not the best judges" or "the Roma are mostly really racist."
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(Anonymous) 2015-07-25 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)no subject
(Anonymous) 2015-07-25 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)But when I mentioned having worked with a Chinese woman, he went on a rant about the "dirty Chinese."
Maybe don't generalize?
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(Anonymous) 2015-07-26 05:03 am (UTC)(link)no subject
There's also a lot of culture that encourages xenophobia. It's not strictly racist, per se, but it definitely is an issue.
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(Anonymous) 2015-07-25 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)(adding fuel to this amusing fire)
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(Anonymous) 2015-07-25 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)Blaming people of being racist only because of that is an issue itself imo.
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(Anonymous) 2015-07-26 05:12 am (UTC)(link)Some of the most overtly racist people I've ever met were Japanese. I worked at a Japanese restaurant (in Canada) and the owner would say such racist stuff in Japanese so customers couldn't understand. She would badmouth Chinese and Koreans and give special service to Japanese. We had a Korean guy working in the kitchen (he could speak okay Japanese) and he called like an hour or two before his shift one day saying he couldn't come because he was sick. That was not enough notice for her, apparently, and she fired him and talked shit about him to me... "Oh, because he's Korean."
It's exceedingly common for Korean Japanese, as second or third generation, to change their surnames to a Japanese one, because otherwise they will be openly be discriminated against by employers. Plus there's the whole thing where third generation Korean Japanese aren't even Japanese citizens, legally speaking, they're "special residents."
So yeah, Japan is pretty fucking racist.
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Because, reasons. Many of those reasons are the same reasons they're xenophobic in general and have a lot to do with traditions about racial "purity" that have been essentially written into law.
But yes, there's real racism at work there, and not the innocent/ignorant kind I was mentioning that they display toward other cultures.
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(Anonymous) 2015-07-26 07:14 am (UTC)(link)A lot of it is xenophobia. I'm American, but I don't think it'd fly in my home country some of the shit I've seen here. Renting an apartment? Better make sure you're not a dirty foreigner, because landlords will actually come out and tell you that's the reason why. Doesn't matter if you're a permanent resident.
Oh, speaking of permanent resident, I love the law that says all foreigners (as long as you look foreign) must present their resident card or passport to check in to a hotel. Forget about using other government approved ID like a drivers license or health insurance card.
Sorry, I'm. It attacking you. But man, it's nice to see someone who can relate.
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Japan is a strange place that way, where there's definitely racism at play but the vast majority of people aren't remotely malicious about it. Which is absolutely not the case with the other times I've experienced racism.
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(Anonymous) 2015-07-26 07:47 am (UTC)(link)When people tell me on tumblr how jealous they are of me living in Japan...I love the country, but I'd go back to America in a heartbeat if I didn't have so much going on here. The USA has its problems, but every day is a chore in Japan.
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It's not like you won't make friends or have relationship prospects or a good career or a bunch of other things, it's that you have to deal with all the little things and you have to deal with them on a constant basis.
I'm not saying I regret my decision to work there (I was able to save up a bunch of money and it was a very eye-opening experience) but I don't think you could pay me to go back to live/work there unless it was only for a 3-4 month alternating period like many foreign professionals opt for these days.
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(Anonymous) 2015-07-26 11:02 am (UTC)(link)To be fair you get that as a foreigner in every country. Also when you visit other countries and people learn that you don't live in the same country where you were born. The further you are from your country of origin, the more you hear it. It's a pain in the ass.
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(Anonymous) 2015-07-26 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)But I was denied several apartments when I lived in Japan. I was denied entry to three restaurants. I was randomly stopped by the police twice and asked to present ID. What really kills me is that hey, for all they knew, I could have been legally Japanese - I had a white co-worker who was, and relayed a funny(?) story about them trying to kick him out of a "Japanese only" onsen. And what would he do if he was stopped by the police and asked for ID in Japan? He wouldn't have legally had to show it, but they wouldn't know that, so he would get in trouble.
Anyway, this is not even mentioning the awkward questions and conversations, which I can to some extent forgive and blame on ignorance and cultural isolation. Though getting yelled at on the train for speaking English by old people (excuse me, "being too loud" when we were speaking fairly softly on an already loud train with Japanese people) definitely was inexcusable. As was my friend getting punched by a drunk Japanese guy for speaking English.
Overall I got the sense that Japan loves tourists and loves interacting with people internationally, but is VERY uncomfortable about those same international people actually living in Japan (as anything other than a student). I don't think everyone was like that at all, don't get me wrong. But the system is not designed for people to stay there long term, nor are people's attitudes. And hey, I figure, being a white person from an "acceptable" country, I probably had it better than most other foreigners, and I still wanted to break down and cry sometimes.