[ SECRET POST #3125 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3125 ⌋

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Comments

OP - Bit of background

[(Anonymous)]

I have a friend who simply does not understand why I criticize her canon pairing but not my own noncanon one.

And the reason is simple: I can FIX the unhealthy elements of my pairing in fic. I KNOW it's not perfect, but when I write it, I usually progress the relationship so that they overcome those obstacles. And given that the two characters in question aren't actually a couple on the show, it's not a HUGE deal. The unhealthy behavior they exhibit is MUCH easier to get over considering they're in the process of developing their friendship but not actually a couple.

But her pairing has really unhealthy elements built into the romance that I CANNOT enjoy. If you get rid of it in fic, I think that's fine but in the show itself, it makes it impossible for me to ship it.

I'm not criticizing HER when I criticize her pairing. I'm criticizing the WRITING. And I don't think it's hypocritical of me to write the noncanon pairing because I go out of my way to avoid those elements when I write fic. But knowing that those unhealthy elements are canonically part of her pairing's romance bothers me and that's why I criticize how it's written.

Re: OP - Bit of background

[dani_phantasma]

Oh hey that's my exact issue with a canon pairing from one of my fandoms that I mentioned above. Sort of. It's always a lot of explaining about how I don't hate the pairing but I hate how the canon did the pairing.

Re: OP - Bit of background

[(Anonymous)]

I just really DESPISE the writers, I'll be honest.

And I think the only reason I like my pairing better is because the writers haven't had a chance to fuck it up.

I don't think my friend is a bad person or condoning abuse or anything for shipping it. But the things I'll accept in a fledgling friendship (that I can always smooth out in fic) aren't the same as those in a full-blown relationship where the people in question know and understand each other better (or at least they SHOULD).

Re: OP - Bit of background

[dani_phantasma]

Oh yeah. I understand.

I don't know if I despise the writers, myself. But I do kind of feel like Hartman (show seemed responsible for a lot of what was wrong with the ship) isn't the greatest writer. A big problem with the canon pairing I'm not a fan of was that one half of the pairing was always portrayed as right to the point of ignoring hypocrisy and the other was always sort of expected to admit he was wrong.

In a weird way it felt unfair for one half because the other always kept getting her way.

Re: OP - Bit of background

[(Anonymous)]

I have to wonder why canon shippers get so bothered by criticism. Isn't having your ship become canon the pinnacle of the shipping experience? I wouldn't know, my ships never become canon. But if you are completely satisfied with your ship then you shouldn't need validation from anyone else.

I think if one ship becomes canon then people should leave the non-canon shippers alone. Their ships will never become canon so there is no worry about the 'problems' of their relationship actually being a thing. Canon ships already won the grand prize so there is no need to kick the losers while they are down.

Re: OP - Bit of background

[(Anonymous)]

"I can FIX the unhealthy elements of my pairing in fic. "

Pretty sure your friend can do the same with their canon ship?
Sorry but using the 'can fix it on fanfiction' excuse when ppl criticize your ship is lame
You want to criticize the merits of her ship but won't allow anyone to criticize the merits of your own ship because you write it good in fanfictions? Oh well...

Re: OP - Bit of background

[(Anonymous)]

It is hypocritical if you are claiming your noncanon ship is the better ship because the canon ship has problematic elements, but you are giving a free pass to your faves whose dynamic has those problematic elements too. I can't see how their own problematic stuff would vanish if they were a couple because, if anything, if they have those problematic elements as friends too they might be worse as a couple but surely no better than the canon ship you criticize.
Fanfictions are irrelevant, both canon and non canon ships can be written 'perfect' in fanfiction for that matter but you are criticizing the canon and actual writing and if your faves suck too and for the same reasons you complain about the other ship, you are being a hypocrite if you preach about how better your ship would be based on canon.

If I were your friend I'd kindly ask you to shut up too and stop bothering me about my shipping preferences when yours are questionable too.

Re: OP - Bit of background

[(Anonymous)]

Can I just ask - is this about Sterek vs. Stiles/Malia?