[ SECRET POST #3132 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3132 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Well, all the images are 616, not Ultimates.

The storyline you mention was 1981, not the late 80's. I'm familiar with it. The situation is a lot more complex than most people describe; Jan uses Hank's break with reality to her own advantage, also, so they both make terrible, harmful actions towards each other.

They're certainly not always a healthy couple, but they are interesting to me.

[(Anonymous)]

Problem is, they always focused on Hank's actions so he became known as "wife beater" and not much else.

[(Anonymous)]

Except there were several Avengers slash authors who wrote Hank and Jan sympathetically, and let them work through issues. He wasn't fully panned by fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

He seems to be mostly panned. I always hear about him being a wife beater and such. If it wasn't for his TV Tropes page, I wouldn't have found out until later that Jan also did some pretty manipulative things to him and that it wasn't a total one sided thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I'm talking about a specific set of fandom about six years ago. People used to write Hank in their Avengers team fic, and they wrote him mostly sympathetically.

[luxshine]

Hank was pretty much used sympathetically in fics and in the comics until... about two years before Ultimate MArvel started? Then I don't know who started the "Hank Pym, Wife Beater" meme in MArvel that resulted in Ultimate Hank, and then "Hank Pym, useless hero" that made him the scapegoat in Secret Invasion... And from then on, he has been really, realy maligned by writers and fandom alike.

[(Anonymous)]

Fucking Mark Millar, right?