[ SECRET POST #3136 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3136 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I call canon Miss Perfect female characters Mary Sues. If it looks like a Sue and quacks like a Sue...

[(Anonymous)]

But anon, what about Mister Perfect characters? Do they get a pass for being guys?

[(Anonymous)]

No, that would be a Gary Stu.

Cough, Name of the Wind.

[ketita]

Wow, Name of the Wind is one of the worst Canon Stus I've seen in YEARS. I was reading it and I was just floored by how fancy sparklypants that absolutely unlikeable mc was.
I mean I agree that over-specialness is a bit of a flaw in Tamora Pierce's writing (though considering that they're ultimately children's books - is it so wrong for girls to have some fancy God-chosen sparkly adventurers too? When I was younger this stuff bothered me a lot less), but Name of the Wind was a hundred times worse.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

My thoughts exactly. I mean, I don't like Sues of any gender, but some are a little less... shameless than others? The protagonist in The Name of the Wind was the ultimate king of all things Sue and Stu.

[(Anonymous)]

Because everyone knows that if you talk about not liking one thing in fandom, it means you have no problem with everything you didn't talk about!

[(Anonymous)]

Because everyone knows female characters get shit on way way WAAAAAAAYYYYYY more than male characters. Way more. Like--WAY more.

Case in point--James Bond, the original Mary Sue. Or Gary Stu.

[(Anonymous)]

Dude, who are you even arguing against? We KNOW there are Gary Stu characters. But we're talking about Mary Sues. Two wrongs don't make a right, as the saying goes. And female characters may get a lot of shit, but Mary Sue characters deserve that shit by definition.

Plus, dare I say, a lot of female characters in mainstream media actually are really bad characters. Because major producers and such aren't interested in portraying women like real human beings half the time, or moving outside of tired, overused shells of a female character.