[ SECRET POST #393 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #393 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 18 pages, 450 secrets from Secret Submission Post #057.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 2 3 ] not!secrets, [ 1 2 ] not!fandom, [ 1 2 ] too big, [ 1 ] personal attack, [ 1 2 ] wtf?
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Sunday, February 3rd, 2008.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[yaoitomboy.livejournal.com]

EVERYONE I AM SO SORRY. I do alot of stupid things and this has so far been the stupidest thing ever. I am really sorry, I never should have done this. I'm really stupid. I can never tell what I'm doing wrong until it's too late. Please find it in your hearts to forgive me.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you even realize exactly what people are annoyed at you for, or are you just apologizing for the sake of apologizing again? Because it sounds like the latter to me.

[yaoitomboy.livejournal.com]

Yes, I DO realize what they are annoyed for. i'm an idiot ok? I never know what i'm doing bad until it's too late. I'm am seriously sorry.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreeing with the other anon.

Do you even know what "stupid thing" you've done, or is this comment just for the sake of hoping people will accept your silly apology? I don't think that secret is even about what you've done-- more along the lines of you, yourself, that ruined the series for them and many, many others.

[yaoitomboy.livejournal.com]

Yes, I realized what I did. But one thing i'm not sure about. How can my fanfiction ruin the fandom? I mean, it's fanfiction, doesn't everyone have a right to write what they want?

I know thats not the whole problem, but I'm just confused abotu that part.

[neuewelt.livejournal.com]

Anon out in the open. \o/

To be honest, I wouldn't even know what to say about your fanfictions, because I never pay attention to them myself. But from what everyone else has been saying about them, it sounds like they're nothing but ridiculous bundles of nonsense.
But like I said, I tend to not pay attention to you or the things you post, so you'd have to get someone else's word on it.

[yaoitomboy.livejournal.com]

They aren't THAT ridiculous. I mean yeah the CRACK and the OOCness and weird outfits are a bit much, but thats just who I am. I can't just draw angst and seriousness as well as others. I'm more of a...non-serious person?

[neuewelt.livejournal.com]

Even if that's the fact, others may not take it as a harmless joke like you do. It's becoming repeatitive, and it's not even your stories that make people dislike you, just as jiora said. It's your attitude towards others, and if you aren't recognized, then you make countless comments on their post just to aggravate others.

You were asking for this for quite some time now.

[yaoitomboy.livejournal.com]

I had no idea what I was doing. I just wrote what I thought was ok. I seriously didn't think that my replies were this serious. I'm not as smart as most people. i just need someone to take the time to talk to me provately and tell me what I'm doing wrong.

[devicing.livejournal.com]

So crossdressing, OOCness, and all that are somehow not ridiculous? I don't think you can claim that your fanfictions are not ridiculous when they have no point but to put characters in bikinis "just for the lulz." I agree that every writer has a right to post whatever they want, but it's the way you go about it that makes most of us annoyed.

And besides, I think most people aren't as annoyed with what you make, but more with what you do. You make people do requests for you, you steal other's ideas and then pretend that nothing happened, and you have an elitist attitude on the community even though you've been in the fandom for at least 2 months. I don't know why you think you're the "peacemaker" or all that, but really. Fandom is more enjoyable for everyone when we're on equal levels. I know you think you're being all nice when you comment on people's entries claiming to be the peacemaker on the community, but it's when you imply that all of us are just so hard assed and bitchy about our fandom that we get annoyed. We're not going to flip a shit if people post a pairing number's post, but yes, that's something that deserves to be on a personal journal, not a community journal.

[yaoitomboy.livejournal.com]

I know what I did wrong and I'm sorry. I don't know what I do wrong until its too late. I regret all the annoying things I said.

But why do you guys have such problems with my fics? Yes, they are ridiculous, but thats just because I chose to write that way. Just because my fics aren't as serious as yours doesn't mean they can be hated. Yes they can be a little annoying, but I'm not the only one who does that. i'm pretty sure there will be more people who'll write crossdressing and stuff. I know I shouldn't have stolen her stuff, but I didn't realize that it was bad because my sister said that her ideas weren't trademarked or had copy rights. So partially it's my sister's fault for encouragin me. And I never meant to think of you guys as hard assed and bitchy, I just was in a bad mood and decided to get stupid on it. i'm just an idiot, ok?

[jiora.livejournal.com]

Oi, knock that off. This isn't about any one stupid thing you've done, so don't make it sound like that's it at all. It's not your fiction or fanart or any other thing you make for the fandom. This is about your behavior. What you need to do from here is to take a step back and look at the things you say or do and think about how people are going to react to them. I mean seriously stop and think about them and the reactions you tend to get. It's a very difficult thing to do since you're going to be so used to your own behavior that it seems normal, but it's a trait everyone needs to learn to get by in life: Stop and think before you act. I don't think you're a bad person at all; you just seem like someone who hasn't learned this skill yet.

[loticae.livejournal.com]

*SITS BACK WITH POPCORN*

[downpours.livejournal.com]

Actually, yeah, I did get ticked with all your 'please read this' stuff, demands and all, and everyone here already told you how you can improve on your social skills and all. Personally, I'm not into the whole 'disliking a person because of their fanfiction', because, well, if they don't like what you write, there's always the option of simply pressing Back. You can probably judge a fic from the summary, scanning over it, etc., so I don't see the Big Deal about your fanfiction.

But, yeah, like I said, you can change the way you act about your Demands and all. I guess you can also work on your fanfiction, since that's what some people here are complaining about. If you think it will make them more comfortable to just not post in the comm, maybe you can post it elsewhere where people who like the same ideas like you will also be able to see it. :D

[yaoitomboy.livejournal.com]

Guh. I wish I could share it with people who are interested, but all of those people belong to other communities that know about this issue, like tsunafish, pineappletuna, and 1827_is_love. I pretty much can't share my passion for comedy writing anywhere, without getting some n00b to read it and take the time to critisize it instead of just clicking the back button. I can't even share my stuff on deviantart or ff.net anymore...

[case]

>>I pretty much can't share my passion for comedy writing anywhere

Yes, you can. No one's banning you from the fandom, because no one has the right to do that. But if you keep doing something people that annoys people (whether it's fandom or not) you're going to have to deal with the backlash for it. If you don't like the backlash, don't do it. And if you DO decide to do it, don't cry about the consequences. Makes sense, huh?

>> without getting some n00b to read it and take the time to critisize it

Maybe ... just maybe, it's because your comedy is bad? Or perhaps badly done? Or maybe just not to everyone's taste. You calling them "n00bs" for disliking your fics indicates that you think you're superior to people who dislike your fics. And maybe you do. But maybe you're wrong. I'm sure those n00bs agree.

If you post something on the internet, people are going to comment on it and form opinions about it no matter what you do -- that's the risk you run when you post it. (Hint: things like "no flames!! just hit the back button!!" will probably just make people want to flame you more).

[suntea.livejournal.com]

without getting some n00b to read it and take the time to critisize

... I... Isn't that how you improve? You're... lucky enough to even get CC, hun.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, she certainly turns it down if you ask if she wants it.

[(Anonymous)]

So do you only want positive feedback, and everyone who wants to give you some constructive criticism (not even flames) so you can improve your writing is a 'n00b'?

[downpours.livejournal.com]

M-maybe you could have done without the n00b comment. XDDD; Things like those may also be another reason why people don't like you too much.

[parametric.livejournal.com]

*sigh* Everyone does stupid things, everyone starts somewhere, but honestly? You aren't endearing yourself to anyone by apologizing repeatedly and then telling us that it isn't your fault or it was someone else's idea first or that you have a form of autism. Those aren't reasons, those are excuses. And you cannot tell me that they aren't, because frankly I know from experiences with others.

Right now, it seems to me that you don't want to make up for a lot of the less-than-intelligent things you've done. You just want us to forget all about it and like you. It doesn't work that way, honey, I'm sorry. The reason people are getting on your case is because you've been incredibly immature; if you want them to get off your case, it's not going to happen all at once, but a great way to start displaying your maturity is by taking responsibility for your actions. Because, in the end, they are your actions. And just as you have a right to take said actions (i.e. writing what you like, saying what you like), we have a right to dislike and even chastise you for those actions.

This is the internet, hon. No one is going to know automatically that you have Asperger's. No one is going to judge you by any standard but how you present yourself. I know it can be harsh, and everyone starts somewhere. However, the fact that you seem to be unable to handle the consequences of your self-presentation and deal with them under your own power. Honestly? When the whole thing started turning into a fiasco, I actually did attempt to send you a polite private message with something along the lines of explaining what you were doing wrong and that it didn't have to be so bad as long as you recognized and fixed what you were doing wrong. For whatever reason, though, it seems you disabled private messaging so I just didn't bother putting any more effort into it.

But now? Asking for more attention and for everyone to tell you what you're doing wrong isn't going to work. People have already outlined in several other comments just what they think you've done wrong. Pay attention. That's the general gist I'm picking up from your comments; you're refusing to listen even when people are being polite. Instead you're defensive and making excuses and not really getting the point. You arguing or placing blame elsewhere isn't going to help the situation. You listening to what people have to say and then trying to work on those problems will. People don't like you snapping up all the fanfiction or art requests? Then back off and let others take them. Copying off another person's RP idea is met with disapproval? Apologize sincerely to all those involved and keep in mind that stealing in any form isn't going to score brownie points. Others don't like your fanfiction and think it's poorly made? Then look at the complaints and strive to improve on those mistakes - and accept criticism, especially when you yourself ask for it. People pointing out mistakes doesn't mean they have a grudge against you and your work, it means they've spotted ways to make your writing better and want you to improve.

It's really up to you, honey. No matter how much we try to get through to you, whether or not that succeeds is ultimately your choice. Keep that in mind, all right?

[yaoitomboy.livejournal.com]

Well I did apologize to her, (The person I copied the RP from) and she's not completely forgiven of me, but she claims she will someday, and what surprizes me is that she's on my side in this whole mess here. But anyways, i'm willing to make improvements as long as you guys don't post anymore stuff about me making me more humiliated than I already was. (I"m not trying to be bitchy, I'm just telling you what I feel.) But yeahs, I'm willing to be better from now on.

[taistoi.livejournal.com]

Pay attention. That's the general gist I'm picking up from your comments; you're refusing to listen even when people are being polite.

Considering that the above was the entire POINT of this comment, I think your responses should reflect the argument made, and not go off on a different point entirely.

Really, if you want to improve your standing, LISTEN to what other people are saying. You are not the only person in the world who can be right.

We're trying to HELP you understand what you're doing that makes us all so mad. If you don't listen to us, you're just making it worse. If you TRULY want to be better from now on, then do yourself a huge favor and LISTEN to us.

This has nothing to do with copying the RP. This has nothing to do with writing fanfiction. This has to do with BASIC INTERACTION. If you ignore what the other person is saying, then they aren't going to treat you kindly. Just... go through and actually READ the comments. Don't blanket statement everyone, because that WILL NOT win you any points, alright?

I'm not trying to be mean or bitchy or anything. I'm sincerely trying to help you, because you've asked so many people what you're doing wrong and you're apparently not getting it. Just... read the comments. It will help.

[neuewelt.livejournal.com]

But anyways, i'm willing to make improvements as long as you guys don't post anymore stuff about me

Dear Lord, are you serious? That almost made me lol.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't you think that's kinda harsh? I mean I read through all of these comments, and I believe this stuff can be reported, mostly for internet harrasing. (there are some bad comments here, I believe). I'm not trying to go on anyone's side here, I'm just worried about the deletion of this community.