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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-16 03:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #3147 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3147 ⌋

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vethica: (Default)

Re: CONTEXT

[personal profile] vethica 2015-08-16 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
...okay, some of these are trying way too hard.

e: "Drew genderbents"? Really. Really.

ee: apparently shipping unhealthy pairings is "apologism" now?
Edited 2015-08-16 20:37 (UTC)

SA

(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, some of that stuff is grade-A tumblr bullshit, but the pedophilia thing is pretty chilling - especially since the dude is actually convicted.
vethica: (Default)

Re: SA

[personal profile] vethica 2015-08-16 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Is she still friends with this guy? There's only one link to a post involving him on the page, and that post is deleted.

SA, more stuff on the pedo thing

(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm trying to find more stuff, here's a cap from her twitter after being informed of this dude's past:
http://roboticgalaxy.tumblr.com/post/126806240016/hes-not-a-friend-i-just-call-all-my-followers

SA - articles on the guy being a convicted pedophile

(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
http://leadloaded.tumblr.com/post/126491012533/here-is-an-article-talking-about-how-matthew

SA - the deleted artwork in question

(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
http://zamii070.deviantart.com/art/Griddles-Girls-552599066
it says 'old follower' now, but if you google 'zamii 070 griddles' it says 'for another old friend'
vethica: (Default)

Re: SA - the deleted artwork in question

[personal profile] vethica 2015-08-16 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, given that she hasn't taken the drawing down, I assume she is still friends or at least friendly with this guy, and that's not okay.

So call her out on that. Don't turn shipping an unhealthy pairing into ""apologism"" or drawing girls in swimsuits into """underage sexualization""". That's bull.

Re: SA - the deleted artwork in question

(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
da

That's a ridiculous assumption. It's entirely possible that she hasn't taken the drawing down because it's her work, and she likes it. Or because she hasn't decided what to do with it yet - looking at the timestamps, on the devart page this shit dropped less than a week ago. That isn't much time to process on more than a superficial level, especially if they've been friends for a while.
vethica: (Default)

Re: SA - the deleted artwork in question

[personal profile] vethica 2015-08-16 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Fair enough. I was judging by what I'd do, but that isn't the same thing everyone would do.

Re: SA - the deleted artwork in question

(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd probably do the same as she's doing - distance myself from the asshole in question, but not delete my work. Especially since it's pretty much guaranteed to be a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If she leaves the work up, she's supporting the asshole, but if she pulls it, the same people who're accusing her of supporting the asshole will accuse her of trying to cover it up.

And not for nothing, but the defensive responses were all made before anyone presented any actual evidence of wrongdoing. Considering fandom's propensity for howling pedophile over shit like shipping (including shipping two consenting adults if there's a significant age gap, or...whatever the fuck happened with that Sherlock fandom explosion), I can't really blame her for not buying it before that, even if she could have handled things much better.
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Re: SA - the deleted artwork in question

[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2015-08-16 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
"Considering fandom's propensity for howling pedophile over shit like shipping (including shipping two consenting adults if there's a significant age gap, or...whatever the fuck happened with that Sherlock fandom explosion), I can't really blame her for not buying it before that, even if she could have handled things much better."

In DP fandom some of the mod's on Butch Hartman's official message board claimed that a popular r34 artist (Dark DP) was a convicted child molester, without giving any actual proof. They just told everyone it happened, and started making a blacklist of anyone who followed them.

Knowing that I can sorta see why someone would want to wait for actual proof.
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Re: SA - the deleted artwork in question

[personal profile] liz_marcs 2015-08-16 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
This could just as likely be the case.

I, unfortunately, know of a RL example. An ex-friend of my brother's, someone he's known for 10 years, was busted on distribution of CP about six months ago. It took two weeks for my brother to process that information. It was a straight-up real-time performance of the Kübler-Ross five stages of grief.

My brother eventually ended up on, "Bastard's dead to me."

But even to this day, my brother questions whether the signs were there and he just missed them because he was oblivious.

The fact is, I know from experience that sometimes it takes time to process information, especially when it's about someone you thought you knew. In my brother's case, he found out from a newspaper article that his now ex-friend had been arrested and charged. So he at least had receipts.

Going by this thread, it appears receipts didn't appear until after the online accusation was made.

Edited 2015-08-16 22:17 (UTC)

Re: SA - the deleted artwork in question

(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
You are hilariously dedicated to herding people aboard your hate train.
vethica: (Default)

Re: CONTEXT

[personal profile] vethica 2015-08-16 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, one more.

eee: "sexualized underage female characters" they're in swimsuits in a cartoony style oh my god

Re: CONTEXT

(Anonymous) 2015-08-16 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
http://cabell.tumblr.com/post/72799887939/the-alternative-spelling-of-genderbend-is

http://izzybutt.tumblr.com/post/72821710046/the-term-genderbending-is-transphobic-say-instead

Apparently it's transphbic now? IDGI
fishnchips: (Heh*drop*)

Re: CONTEXT

[personal profile] fishnchips 2015-08-16 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't you know? Genderbends are totally the most transphobic thing anyone can do!
iggy: (Default)

Re: CONTEXT

[personal profile] iggy 2015-08-17 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
The genderbends were a commission too. lol.

(Also one of the posts on that blog says that white people can't cosplay Asians, which like--- renders 99% of anime cosplay 'problematic'? Okay.)

I mean if the pedophilia is true, they deserve to be slammed, but bringing in some of the other stuff honestly just makes them look less credible.
vethica: (Default)

Re: CONTEXT

[personal profile] vethica 2015-08-17 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, that's exactly what I was trying to say, but phrased better, I think. :P Thank you.

Re: CONTEXT

(Anonymous) 2015-08-17 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
"but bringing in some of the other stuff honestly just makes them look less credible."

Some of that stuff is so ridiculously reaching or petty it feels like someone accusing someone of doing something actually dodgy or bad and then adding on that their dress sense is bad/their clothes are ugly.

Re: CONTEXT

(Anonymous) 2015-08-17 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
The artist she has a hateboner for is part Filipino. She's accusing an Asian of yellowfacing. lol

Re: CONTEXT

(Anonymous) 2015-08-17 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Aw yeah, classic SJW move. Love it!

(Anonymous) 2015-08-18 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
Drew genderbent Homestuck trolls. Because it's not like that's actually ridiculously common or anything, or like there was (is? IDK anymore) an official crossdressing/rule 63 art thread on the official forums or anything.