[ SECRET POST #3150 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3150 ⌋

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Fantasy fiction

[(Anonymous)]

There was a thread the other day about how fantasy fans have the most shit taste. Howso? Is it because everything is associated with GoT now? Or the cliche-middle-English tropes? I thought that was behind us in the year 2015.

Asking because I've been an aspiring fantasy writer, but I haven't read much, or any at all recently. Lately I've become very disillusioned by the whole scene for different reasons beyond supposedly crappy material. Kind of want to forget about writing and go to medical school.

Re: Fantasy fiction

[(Anonymous)]

Wait. The year 2015 where GoT is the most talked about show on television? Are you from the same 2015 we are? Say what you want about taste, but saying we've left the tropes behind is blatantly untrue.

Re: Fantasy fiction

[(Anonymous)]

I thought all the progressive indie publishers had queered and ethnicized it up by now to where the tropes weren't so prevalent. My mistake.

Re: Fantasy fiction

[(Anonymous)]

That stuff does happen but by numbers it's wayyyyy smaller in terms of readership

Also a lot of that stuff is still kinda bad IMHO. Although better and more interesting. But it's sort of, you avert one cliche and veer right into another.

Re: Fantasy fiction

[(Anonymous)]

Characters of different skin colors and sexualities don't change what the old tropes are. It just changes which characters are doing them.

Re: Fantasy fiction

[(Anonymous)]

Um, I would say just the strong emphasis on multi-book series. The inability to get away from tired epic fantasy tropes and/or the subversion of them in ways that are pretty much just as tired. The emphasis on world-building in a fairly boring, diagrammatic way. The consistently adolescent emotional themes (cf The Name Of The Wind). The relatively restricted tonal range. The emphasis on structure in an incredibly facile way that leads to complete clonal sameness. And I think you can make similar critiques, with slightly different details, in most of the popular subgenres of fantasy.

It's just a genre that is way too happy about staying in its own lane, even when that lane has a lot of really frustrating problems.

I should be clear, though, that my comment was more about what's popular in fantasy than anything else.

Re: Fantasy fiction

[grausam]

good comment

Re: Fantasy fiction

[(Anonymous)]

As a lifelong reader of fantasy fiction - a lot of it is the appeal to the lowest common denominator that bugs me. The power fantasies for adolescent boys, the unexamined personal biases of the writers, the pendulum swing between grimdark and high fantasy (like some shitty blend of Tolkien and WoW), the subsitution of worldbuilding for actual storytelling... and even the worldbuilding can be critiqued because so often it's just shallow and samey.

Fantasy as a genre has the potential to do so much more than it's doing right now. Anything can happen! Anything at all! That's what bugs me. I mean, there's nothing wrong with fun and light fantasy novels with dragons and magic swords. But that doesn't mean it has to be STUPID, you know what I mean? And neither does it have to be overly edgy or preachy (which is what a lot of the grimdark stuff does.)

(Also - being a writer and going to medical school isn't an either-or game.)

Re: Fantasy fiction

[(Anonymous)]

Oh my god THIS! I won't even read fantasy now unless recc'd or obvious it avoids a lot of this.