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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-22 04:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #3153 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3153 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-22 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
But the Lava Mountains weren't gendered because of bullshit gender roles, they're gendered because they're based on real people, namely a famous Hawaiian musician/activist and his wife:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Kamakawiwo%CA%BBole

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/17/pixar-lava-behind-scenes-love-story

(Anonymous) 2015-08-22 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Different movie!

(Anonymous) 2015-08-22 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
OP says they feel the same way about the mountains short.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-22 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
The Lava Mountains were specifically mentioned in the secret and I'm addressing that portion of the text.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-22 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, missed it. I apologize.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-22 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
That's actually not true. The music and Uku were inspired by Iz, but I've never read anything that indicates that the romance in the short was based on his life or his relationship with Marlene. Rather, the plot seems to have been primarily based on the directot's life experiences.

http://pixar.wikia.com/wiki/Lava#Production

(Anonymous) 2015-08-22 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I wasn't talking about the romance as portrayed in the film, only the animation and look of it.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-22 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
How can the animation be gendered because it's based on real people if the characters weren't actually based on those people?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Because you can base the LOOK of an animated character off a real person, but not the actual PLOT off the real person. Kind of like how in Archer, Malory's appearance is based off the person who voices her (Jessica Walter) but in real life, Jessica Walter isn't actually the head of a secret intelligence agency.

Honestly, this isn't that difficult.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
Wait,are you telling me Jessica Walter ISN'T the head of a secret intelligence agency? My life is a lie.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 12:36 pm (UTC)(link)
But the look wasn't based off of them. The main volcano was vaguely based on Iz, but the director has never given any indication that the other volcano was based off of Marlene.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-22 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
"James Ford Murphy had the inspiration for the short from Hawaii and its culture, where he had his honeymoon in 1989. While on vacation at Hawaii in 2011, Murphy learned about the existence of Lo'ihi, an underwater volcano that is growing next to Big Island and that will eventually merge with it. He began reflecting on the fact Big Island is the merging of five volcanoes, and wondered whether the new volcano would know the presence of the others and vice versa, which inspired him to do a love story. Murphy also cites his sister's marriage at the age of 43 as an inspiration for the theme of looking for love for a lifetime when he linked it back to Lo'ihi....

Uku's face is based on those of his voice actor Kuana Torres Kahele, Jackie Gleason, and the bulldog Marc Antony in Feed the Kitty."

Nice try, tumblrina.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-22 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
>tumblrina

Nice try to you. The whole claim that it was inspired by Iz was made up by an anti-SWJ in reaction to Tumblr throwing a fit about the short. Then a tumblrina told that guy off for it.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
That's what I meant, the only way they'd know the fake 'fact' about it being based on Iz is if they're a tumblrina who fell for it.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
I lived in Hawai'i for a majority of my life, and bought into it because I was excited to think that Pixar had done something based on Iz and Marlene. I was really upset to find out someone had made it up just to be an ass.

totally different anon

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
Man, now I'm/i> upset to find out it wasn't based on them and I'm not even from Hawai'i. :(