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The problem is that a lot of perfectly normal men, family guys and young upstanding college students both, think that rape is only violent stranger-rape. There are a whole bunch of rapists and rape supporters that tell themselves they are decent guys because they have never committed violent stranger rape, and ignore all the other types of rape and rape jokes they regularly do partake of. The violent stranger-rapists, yeah, those guys know they are criminals and no amount of teaching will cure those. The rest of you guys with your excuses as to why it isn't real rape, or why a joke about rape doesn't hurt, you guys are the problem. Now, will you cop to it or are you gonna get all defensive and weasel out?

I won't really know, I'm a virgin. But as far as I understand, rape is essentially sexual activities without consent from both parties. And stop trying to paint this as a "Men=villians, Women=victims" thing please?

The point is that not all rape is done by psychopaths who ignore that there is not mutual consent.

Some of it is done as a result of not understanding or overlooking consent. Or just not thinking it through.

So saying "It's all done by psychopaths" is wrong and misleading.

Okay, education about consent is necessary.
But don't limit that education to just men.

I don't think anyone would say that we should limit it to just men.

I think the reason people focus on men in the discourse is because - and correct me if you have any statistics to the contrary - more men are rapists than women.

In the subject line "teach men not to rape"

I think the reason people focus on men in the discourse is because - and correct me if you have any statistics to the contrary - more men are rapists than women.

So? That just condones women who rape. "Sure women may rape, but not nearly as often as men!"

And taking into account women raping men by forcing them to penetrate them, men and women rape at the same rates.

Men made to penetrate: 1.7%
Women raped: 1.6%

From CDC: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6308a1.htm

It doesn't in any way condone women who rape.

It sure does ignore them and pretend they don't exist, though.

It's addressing the biggest part of the problem first.

It's imperfect, but it sure as hell isn't straight-up wrong. Male-on-female rape is still the biggest rape demographic.

oh shit. this is going to make it really hard to still like you as a person.

I'm not sure how to respond to comments like this. It has nothing to do with what I actually said and am I going to redact what I said just because some anon says they don't like me anymore?

Also are you making assumptions about my stance on non-male-on-female rape? Because you could ask if you're curious. If you disagree you could try to reason with me. This is a really sensitive and complex topic and I'm always open to learning more.

But just saying "I don't like you now" when I don't even know who you are is both really weird and also really unhelpful.

Why not? Rape jokes apparently condone rape for men

Define, "a lot". Because less than 5% of men are rapists or attempted to rape someone. And that % is on par with most other crimes.

Where are you getting your statistics?

The internet. Do you have statistics that say otherwise? The highest I have found is 6%.

I found 30%

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