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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-23 03:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #3154 ]


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Re: Inspired by another thread

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course people should be taught to avoid being victims of crime, but it can still happen even if you take precautions and what happens then is different for rape (including rape of men, not just women) than a most other crimes. That's where a lot if the "teach men not to rape" movement comes from. In addition to the burden of trying not to get raped that everyone has, victims often get saddled with the additional burden of not being believed, being blamed for it no matter what they were doing, being called horrible names, having people imply they are "ruined" or whatever, having to continue to see their rapists and school/work/family functions, etc.

Failing to lock your doors may earn you a deserved scolding, but if someone robs your house that's a crime regardless and no one is going to ask why you are trying to ruin the life of the promising young person who robbed you.

Re: Inspired by another thread

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
This exactly. The problem with the OP's advice is that it feeds into rape myths; the popular narrative that only women, and only certain types of women in certain situations get raped.

I don't agree with the "teaching men not to rape" thing. They already know it's wrong. But I do think more education in general about rape would help the victims, at least.

Re: Inspired by another thread

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you.

Re: Inspired by another thread

(Anonymous) 2015-08-24 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I don't agree with the "teaching men not to rape" thing. They already know it's wrong.

Do some basic sociological research, fuck.
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Re: Inspired by another thread

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-08-24 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
eh. Some of them don't care and that has a lot to do with upbringing. It's not "hey son, listen: rape is wrong" because everyone's heard that. It's changing our culture so it becomes unacceptable.

Re: Inspired by another thread

(Anonymous) 2015-08-24 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
OP of the comment you're replying to.

I agree that things need to change. I just don't think that men who rape don't already know what they're doing is wrong. I think sometimes they pretend to in non-stranger rape cases because they believe that way they can get away with it, and sadly they're often right.

To say that they're not aware of their crime, to me, minimises the absolutely awful thing they're doing. I think ridding our culture of rape myths and victim blaming would do a lot more to help the cause than saying that men need to be taught something they're already taught from the time they're a tiny toddler ("It's wrong to hurt other people.")
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Re: Inspired by another thread

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-08-24 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
bingo.