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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-25 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #3156 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3156 ⌋

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[Spider Riders]


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[Shameless]


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[The Mighty Boosh]


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[Glitch]


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[Fire Emblem: Awakening]


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(Anonymous) 2015-08-25 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Also women often find abusive brooding men sexy

(Anonymous) 2015-08-25 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol like that's different.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-25 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
how is it not different

(Anonymous) 2015-08-25 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
So you're saying it's innate or something?

(Anonymous) 2015-08-25 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know entirely where preferences come from, it's possible some of it's socially conditioned, but different people have different preferences for different reasons and that's okay. I'm not comfortable assigning it entirely to conditioning basically because it diminishes agency

(but also, see below re: me being a big dumb)

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-25 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
You sound like a guy who said hello to a woman once and didn't get a blowjob in return, so now you're forever bitter...

(Anonymous) 2015-08-25 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know where you thought I said there was something wrong with that?

But I don't

SA

(Anonymous) 2015-08-25 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
wait I kind of just brainfarted past the 'abusive' part

MY BAD EVERYBODY

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(Anonymous) 2015-08-25 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
oh okay :)

(Anonymous) 2015-08-25 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
There are a lot of guys out there who think that if they show the bare minimum of decent behavior to a woman and she doesn't fall in love instantly, she must like "assholes" and "jerks" or even want to be abused.

I think that's what that poster was referring to.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-25 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
DA No, they sound like they equate "taught" with superficial brainwashing attempts and are trying to insist it's natural/genuine or something.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-25 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Closer to that. I'm generally uncomfortable with arguments that assign a preference or view or whatever entirely to social conditioning, because I think it's kind of insulting

buttttttt also I kind of just mentally skipped over the "abusive" qualifier and was focusing more on the "brooding and sexy" part, and I probably wouldn't have made the post that way if I hadn't done that

(Anonymous) 2015-08-25 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt

Er, as a woman, sorry but it's kind of an inescapable fact that women find those kind of men sexy. It's not a "lol women are idiots," or "women will always inherently prefer abusive men and that's good," it's just a descriptive fact of how things of how things happen to be at this moment in time. And saying lots of women don't happen to find abusive broody men sexy is like saying lots of men don't find big breasts sexy.

That doesn't negate the idea that they find this sexy because they've been socialized to do so, btw.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-25 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Some women, but not all. I'm a woman and I've never found it sexy. Even a little bit of jerk behavior is a huge turnoff and pisses me off.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-25 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
OP of this subthread and I don't think that all women find that sexy, and I'm really sorry if I implied that. I didn't mean to.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-26 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Ditto to this. Always been attracted to sensitive nice guys. Run at the very first sign of jerkishness.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-26 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
Do you always prefer the same exact things in fiction and real life?
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[personal profile] meishuu 2015-08-26 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too, especially in real life. In fiction I can tolerate for example a misunderstanding an a bit of snark between the couple, but at the first sign of the man being a jerk I just stop reading/turn off the tv.
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2015-08-26 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
In this case,my attitude to Rochester can vary a lot. Sometimes when I've read it I want to punch him, other times I'm sympathetic. In adaptations it's a very fine line between portraying him as a good man who has made bad decisions and a total twat.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-25 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
As the commenter who said at the top "women have been taught to", yeah, this. Not that it always sticks, and not that it always manifests irl.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-26 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Really, looking through this very community reveals TONS of support for this fact. Snape, Hannibal, every anime villain...

(Anonymous) 2015-08-26 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
lol

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[personal profile] meishuu 2015-08-26 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not a guy and I second OP statement, so fuck you.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-26 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
It's almost as if you comment is somehow related to the first comment... SOMEHOW.

(Anonymous) 2015-08-26 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
Again, as I've said elsewhere in the thread, I completely brain farted on this one and said some stupid shit because I legitimately just didn't notice the part where it said "abusive" even though I physically retyped it

I'm an idiot, basically