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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-09-06 03:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #3168 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3168 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Criminal Minds]


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[Community]


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(Harry Potter, Yu-Gi-Oh)


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[JerryC]


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[J.K. Rowling/Harry Potter]


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[Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance]


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[Hatfields & McCoys]


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[Proof]


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[Brooklyn Nine Nine]


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[Scarlett Johansson]


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[No Escape]











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(Anonymous) 2015-09-06 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
...and there are seven items in both too. And Ginny's blackouts where she has no idea what's going on and thinks she's going insane...I know there's no way JKR could have ripped off YGO, it came out way too soon before Sorcerer's Stone, but now I'd bet anything both franchises were ripping off the same earlier sources or sets of tropes from earlier fantasy/horror material.
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-09-07 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's more a coincidence, and both of them building on lots of well-known fantasy tropes. 7 being a magical number is hardly new, so having two sets of "7 magical items" of some sort is hardly unique or groundbreaking.
Furthermore, the idea of extending life by hiding away the heart is also a well-known trope, and I'd assume Rowling was having the Horcruxes be a kind of version of that. Possessed objects that possess people are also a well-known trope.
There's nothing specific enough here to warrant "ripping off", imo.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-07 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Oh yeah, I meant "rip-off" in an affectionate way -- "good writers borrow, great writers steal" sort of thing. Building upon centuries of fantasy lore and folktales is not a bad thing. ;)
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-09-07 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Well, even in an affectionate way, I guess I separate building on lots of lore/folktales and developing an idea that draws from it, from reworking a specific idea and giving it a new twist. I didn't think you were dissing them :)

(Anonymous) 2015-09-07 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Using storytelling tropes/concepts from a variety of sources isn't ripping off. Nobody owns the concept of possession causing blackouts, or thinking one is going insane from them. In fact I possessions causing black outs makes perfect sense, and a person thinking they are going insane seems like a rational reaction to it.

People really need to learn what 'ripping off' means.

SA

(Anonymous) 2015-09-07 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Derp I just read your comment above. I apologize for taking it seriously. I've come from some writing circles where people used to be quick with accusations of ripping off all the time, so it's an old frustration of mine.