[ SECRET POST #3173 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3173 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Detroit Metal City]


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(Gravity Falls, Criminal Minds)


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08. [SPOILERS for X-Files (new series)]



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09. [SPOILERS for Sly Cooper 4: Thieves In Time]



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11. [SPOILERS for Steven Universe]



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12. [WARNING for sexual assault]

[Chrissie Hynde of The Pretenders]


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13. [WARNING for rape and assault]

[Hockey RPF]











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Comments

Re: It's troubling

[(Anonymous)]

I think most of the time it's more people pointing out why the bad thing is bad. And honestly, I'm not sure how else you would really expect people to react.

Re: It's troubling

[(Anonymous)]

I'm just frustrated, like I said. I just think that if someone posts something that they admit is racist, a dozen "FU racist" comments underneath is unnecessary, and possibly harmful, since they KNOW they're being racist to begin with, and are probably already feeling shitty about it, which is why they're posting anon in GC.

Re: It's troubling

[(Anonymous)]

They didn't say they knew it was racist, in any of the threads the last three days

Re: It's troubling

[(Anonymous)]

The one above says "possibly racist". Yesterday it was something like "I know people are gonna call me racist". So sure. They didn't say they KNEW it was racist. But they had a pretty good idea. Let's not split hairs.

Re: It's troubling

[(Anonymous)]

No, this is an important hair to split, because those are completely different things to say. Neither of those things conveys the message that they know that it's racist and understand why it's racist, at all. And that's the important thing that people are trying to get across.

In fact, the second one implies that they themselves DON'T believe it's racist, they just know that people are going to call them that.

Re: It's troubling

[(Anonymous)]

If they didn't have a feeling it was racist, they wouldn't say "this might be racist."

If the concern of GC was to educate the racist person on why it is racist, people wouldn't say "racist" and leave it at that. My point is that very few people try to help, in whatever way they aim to help.

1. Person posts a comment regarding racism, using the word "racist" IN the post
2. People respond calling person a racist

How does this accomplish anything?

Re: It's troubling

[(Anonymous)]

They have an awareness that it falls into the category commonly assigned to racist.

They do not know whether it is, in reality, racist or not.

Those are two different things.

Re: It's troubling

[(Anonymous)]

No, no they're not. You're being deliberately argumentative, and I'm not really interested in arguing for the sake of arguing.

Re: It's troubling

[(Anonymous)]

I'm really not. I think it's a substantive and extremely relevant different, not just arguing for the sake of argument.

If someone says that they believe a thing that they know to be racist, that implies that they know and understand why it's racist and therefore bad, and are simply lamenting that they can't help but believe it anyway.

If someone says that they believe a thing that might be racist, there's no such understanding implied. All they have is the ability to recognize what things get called racist in society. So it's a reasonable response to confirm that it is racist and to explain precisely why. If you understand why something is racist, you wouldn't say that it "might" be considered racist. You would have more confidence in it.

My point is that the conversations that flow out of those two statements are naturally and properly very different. If all your beef comes down to is that too many people are responding or that the tone is more inflamed than you want, I gotta be honest, I don't have that much sympathy.

Re: It's troubling

[(Anonymous)]

IF "racist" comments were followed up with explanations or suggestions or help or concern or any attempt to show basic understanding or compassion or recognition of the fact that someone is here posting anonymously because there's no where else they can go to pick the brains of a collective that is typically very helpful to people with all sorts of problems (unless they're racist problems)... IF such attempts were made by a majority, I wouldn't have a problem. The problem I have is that most of the replies to people who acknowledge their own racism are things like "dude that's racist" and "fuck you" and they leave it at that. Only one or two will be people who say "that's shitty, but here's some advice for you"