[ SECRET POST #3175 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3175 ⌋

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Comments

[ill_omened]

The main complaint I could see people raising (and in fact have done so, the author of the new Bond books included) is that Idris has a clear working class Hackney accent*.

He's a good actor, but that doesn't change the fact that it'd be pretty incongruous to have him play someone who's meant to be the stereotypical posh english gentleman. Of which there's plenty, Idris isn't the only black actor we've got, there are others probably better suited.

*The equivalent would be having a thick detroit slums accent and getting told to play the Beverly Hills aristocracy.

[(Anonymous)]

I wasn't aware that Sean Connery and Daniel Craig were noted for their posh accents.

Bond's always been rougher than you're painting him here, that's a long-established part of the character.

[ill_omened]

Right, with a huge fuss being kicked up about both of them, and the Craig Bonds are a huge departure from form.

[(Anonymous)]

A massive fuss from idiots.

And the Craig Bond has been massively successful, so.

[(Anonymous)]

I actually hated the first two Craig Bonds but I thought they pretty obviously tried to pull a "back to the roots" with Skyfall. We'll need to wait for the next one to see how that turned out.

[(Anonymous)]

See, that's my problem when people complain about Elba's not posh enough accent. Nobody looks at Connery's tenure and complains he wasn't posh enough to be Bond, so I have a lot of trouble believing that's really the issue with Idris Elba as Bond.

He can do a generic british accent - his baltimore one was fine!

[(Anonymous)]

We all can, well anyone who has a thick accent associated with lower class learns to do a basic generic business english accent in order to be taken seriously and get a job.
A whole bunch of the current batch of english actors are from posh backgrounds but if you look up the ones who came from normal or lower classes you'll usually find that they have a "serious interview" accent and a "panel show, be yourself" accent.

Re: He can do a generic british accent - his baltimore one was fine!

[(Anonymous)]

This. People talk as if Received Pronunciation hasn't been a Thing in the UK for generations.

Re: He can do a generic british accent - his baltimore one was fine!

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I remember reading somewhere that one of my current favorite actors almost got kicked out of drama school for refusing to polish up his accent, which suggests that that's an accepted thing in the UK. (Not that it doesn't happen in the US, but it's more likely that people will emulate the accent that most of our TV comes in--Los Angeles via Hollywood.

Re: He can do a generic british accent - his baltimore one was fine!

[(Anonymous)]

I agree generally but lol at "normal classes".

[(Anonymous)]

Actors can learn to put on accents though? Dialogue coaches exist for a reason.

[(Anonymous)]

Wait, you mean Elba is too street to play Bond? (Referring to a recent piece of industry racism.)

Accents are mutable for actors, you utter fool. It's also pretty classist/racist of you to assume he can't pull off a posh accent (hint: he has).

[ill_omened]

They're not entriely immutable you bloodclot. Both in Luther and The Wire he'd slip and you'd be able to detect a clear hint of his natural accent.

[(Anonymous)]

Both of those are TV shows, which generally can't afford to do as many retakes of lines as movies due to much quicker production schedules. It would be much easier to redo slips in a movie, especially a high budget one.

[(Anonymous)]

True. You wouldn't even have to reshoot it, just redo the audio.

[(Anonymous)]

My god, it's almost as if actors...act. As in, play characters that have accents, backgrounds, and personality traits that they don't have themselves.