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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-09-13 03:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #3175 ]


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Re: Dumb stuff you're judgy over

(Anonymous) 2015-09-13 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not the OP. You're assuming a lot about my feelings on this when I haven't given any.

All I asked was if someone could give me nonsanctimonious reasons and I haven't gotten any yet. Even thinking those words are rude and not wanting to be a "rude person" who uses those words is kind of judgey on their part, isn't it?

But like, I'm literally never going to go up to someone and be like "wow u sanctimonious" about their swearing habits because I'm never going to ask anyone about them because it's not a big deal. I think you're making this out to be a lot more important to me than it is.

Re: Dumb stuff you're judgy over

(Anonymous) 2015-09-13 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Well what I've been saying is that choosing not to use words isn't 'sanctimonious"

Sorry it isn't. Being raised that way and just not wanting to? Not sanctimonious. Not believing in using them That's not sanctimonious.

There is a difference between not liking words. and judging PEOPLE. Words are not people. They're words.

Re: Dumb stuff you're judgy over

(Anonymous) 2015-09-13 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, yes, you're correct, you did give me the religious reason. I would say that's not sanctimonious. With the raised in the household example as well. That's also following an outside system's rules, so not personally judgmental. I would say both of those are not sanctimonious. Thank you.

"Not believing in using them" I would immediately question why, and what the speaker believes about those words-- bad? why?-- and the people who do use them-- are they now people who use bad words? does this make them rude? would you be rude if you said them? do you judge yourself and others the same way, and why would it make you rude but not them?-- and so on.

Re: Dumb stuff you're judgy over

(Anonymous) 2015-09-13 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
It is possible to not like/use a word but not judge others. That is a thing people are capable of doing. I have several words I don't use because I don't like them, I don't like the way they sound or I have a negative experience connected with them. I just don't like them.

But I don't judge someone else for using them.

See? It's possible.

Re: Dumb stuff you're judgy over

(Anonymous) 2015-09-13 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Several select words is a far call from "all swear words as a blanket whole" though.

Re: Dumb stuff you're judgy over

(Anonymous) 2015-09-13 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Well its a similar principle. Someone could choose not to use swear words but not judge people who do who think they're rude/bad people for it.

I have good friends who are like that. They won't use swear words but they won't mind that the rest of our friend group tends to use them, and they don't seem to like us any less for it. It's their personal choice.

Re: Dumb stuff you're judgy over

(Anonymous) 2015-09-13 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I would wonder why they made that choice, then, or what their reasoning for it is. I'm not going to disrespect their choice, go inquire about it, or try to force them to swear because it honestly doesn't matter to me as much as you seem to think it does, but I wouldn't automatically assume it's non-sanctimonious.

Before you get offended, I'll add it's certainly minor enough trait to shrug off, especially for a friend.

Re: Dumb stuff you're judgy over

(Anonymous) 2015-09-13 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Let me show you something.

"sanc·ti·mo·ni·ous
ˌsaNG(k)təˈmōnēəs/Submit
adjectivederogatory
making a show of being morally superior to other people."

Part of the definition of sanctimonius is that they're making a SHOW of it. That they're rubbing it in other's faces and bragging about it.

If you have to inquire about someone's choice not to use swearwords than by definition it is not sanctimonious.

Re: Dumb stuff you're judgy over

(Anonymous) 2015-09-13 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Ye-es. And in general, if I'm inquiring about it, that means I noticed, which means there was likely a show of some kind. I wouldn't go inquire to your friends because I have no idea who they are, but someone would have to do quite a bit to make me notice the fact that they actively censor themselves from swearing at all times. I say this as someone who rarely, rarely swears-- it's not that noticeable and certainly not to the "at all" extent.

Censoring themselves in a professional setting and such is obviously different, that's the outside rules again.

Re: Dumb stuff you're judgy over

(Anonymous) 2015-09-13 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
You talked about non sanctimonious reasons. What I'm saying is that if you have to inquire the REASON then how the fuck is the reason "sanctimonious"?

and really, why do people have to justify to what words they do or don't use to begin with? Oh no they've avoided using swear words 10 times now!

Re: Dumb stuff you're judgy over

(Anonymous) 2015-09-13 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh? "A sanctimonious reason" isn't "the reason is explicitly to be sanctimonious". It's a reason that incidentally comes off sanctimonious. Like a hypocritical reason isn't "in order to be a hypocrite", it's a reason that incidentally comes off hypocritical.

I never said people have to justify what words they use.

I think you're getting confused now, because this is starting to not make sense.

Re: Dumb stuff you're judgy over

(Anonymous) 2015-09-14 08:01 am (UTC)(link)
non of all ayrt,

why so f***ing serious?