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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-09-13 03:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #3175 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3175 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-09-13 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Ward wasn't kidnapped by Garret. He was in jail (for a crime he DID commit, and as far as we know, it wasn't self defense), and Garret offered him a way out, which he made the decision to take. Garret then left Ward alone in the woods. He taught Ward to fend for himself by fucking off for several months. It's not like he was put through the extensive brainwashing Kara was.

Ward was absolutely abused by his family, but with Garret he had plenty of opportunities to choose for himself, and he chose wrong.

Kara, on the other hand, was totally fucked over. She deserved better.
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[personal profile] klutzygirl 2015-09-13 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Ward was a sixteen year old - a minor, which means that he couldn't legally consent to going with Garrett. Thus, 100% kidnapping. And nice victim blaming.

And while he wasn't put through the MCU version of brainwashing, Grant was still brainwashed because that's what John Garrett - his abuser for fifteen years - did to him through said abuse. There's plenty of evidence of the fact that it was both physical (and that went above and beyond simply to be for "the cover". Garrett took pleasure in it and that was definitely not the first time) and emotional abuse.

Now, it doesn't excuse any of his actions but it's very much canon and relevant.

Both Kara and Grant deserved better than this.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-09-13 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't feel like the show whitewashes Ward's abuse (Kara's, yes). But it is pretty clear that Garrett abused Ward. The show just doesn't allow that to be used as an excuse for Ward's actions. Ward was abused and brainwashed. He still did horrible things and is a bad person.
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[personal profile] klutzygirl 2015-09-13 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
The show ignores Garrett's abuse of Ward completely it seems like (and he has yet to even realize that Garrett was abusive).

And it definitely doesn't excuse his actions at all but it's still extremely important.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-14 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
Garrett took pleasure in it and that was definitely not the first time

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